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  • “Normal” (no preference for or against vegetarianism)

    28 57.14%
  • Anti-vegetarian (avoids a vegetarian diet and eats primarily a diet of meat)

    7 14.29%
  • Lacto-ovo Vegetarian (vegetarian, but eats diary and egg products)

    2 4.08%
  • Lacto Vegetarian (vegetarian, but eats diary)

    1 2.04%
  • Ovo Vegetarian (vegetarian, but eats egg products)

    0 0%
  • Vegan (“strict” vegetarian—no diary or egg products)

    0 0%
  • Pesco/pollo Vegetarian (preference to vegetarian diet, but eats fish and foul as well)

    3 6.12%
  • Flexitarian (preference to vegetarian diet, but eats red meat, fish, and foul on occasion)

    6 12.24%
  • Semi to Orthodox Religious Diet (Jewish, Muslim, etc)

    0 0%
  • I don’t fit any of these categories, and my diet is better than any of yours!

    2 4.08%
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    Food

    To tag along with mifencer's thread about vegetarians being smarter, I figured that a poll was in order.

    This one isn't anonymous.
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    Hmm, you spelled "fowl" wrong on several occasions .

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    I loves me some steak. Nice and bloody...

    but seriously, humans need meat. Sure you can try and replace it with soy beans and vegetable protein but it's not the same. We have canine teeth for a reason...
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    Of course! I think it's absurd. Look at Neanderthals: they had nice diets. The problem is not eating meat itself, but mass slaughter and waste of meat. The solution: grow your own meat !

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    I don't hate vegetarians, I just like animals. For eating.

    Just thought I'd make that clear.

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    Meat is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParryRiposte View Post
    Hmm, you spelled "fowl" wrong on several occasions .
    That was foul of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParryRiposte View Post
    Of course! I think it's absurd. Look at Neanderthals: they had nice diets. The problem is not eating meat itself, but mass slaughter and waste of meat. The solution: grow your own meat !
    It's specialization. If we always had to hunt our own food, society would never have advanced beyond living in caves.
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    I eat as much protein as possible, wherever I can find it, which means that some meals end up being chicken, tofu, and peanut butter. And pasta.

    However, I'm a lactard (lactose intolerant), to a rather rediculous degree, so I avoid milk at all costs.


    By the way? The lactaid ice cream that that is made out of milk but claims all over it to be 100% lactose free? Lies. It has trace amounts of lactose in it. And it makes me sick every time. (I'm starting to think maybe it's not actually the lactose that I'm affected by, but if I take enough of the lactaid pills, I can avoid symtoms......... but it is 3 to 10 times the amount anyone else I know needs to take........)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewH View Post
    It's specialization. If we always had to hunt our own food, society would never have advanced beyond living in caves.
    Yes, but would we have to live with people who refuse to eat a perfectly good steak?

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    Don't forget raw food vegans who won't eat anything cooked over 112 degrees fahrenheit

    I was a vegetarian and then vegan for a while and still avoid meat, especially red meat to a small degree, if not simply for the reason that a lot of food that I enjoy is not meat/dairy.

    That doesn't mean that I won't eat the occasional steak, which is always good especially after a long day of competition. Meat is good recovery food!

    I think a lot of way animals are prepared are inhumane, but I was never was vegans for moral reasons per say, although they were always a consideration.

    It's specialization. If we always had to hunt our own food, society would never have advanced beyond living in caves.
    How can you say that? We might have evolved a complex gathering society that eventually became agrarian. That's not the kind of thing we can know....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewH View Post
    We have canine teeth for a reason...
    Andrew, I know you are a sabre fencer, and if I'm going to eat meat, especially beef, I'd really rather have it raw, BUT:

    It is hard to find another species whose dentition is less suited to a carnivorous diet than human beings.

    And if you look at our insides, the story is the same. True carnivores have intestinal tracks that look like a drag strip--straight through, basically. Not the long and winding road of the human large and small intestine....
    Last edited by sabreur; 12-17-2006 at 03:21 AM.
    Why sabre? Because you don't take heads with the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton View Post
    How can you say that? We might have evolved a complex gathering society that eventually became agrarian. That's not the kind of thing we can know....
    Ok, maybe we wouldnt be living in caves. But you certainly wouldn't be able to enjoy any of the comforts of modern life. When everyone is busy hunting their next meal there's no time for innovation.


    Quote Originally Posted by sabreur View Post
    It is hard to find another species whose dentation is less suited to a carnivorous diet than human beings.
    Well yea, obviously we don't have all the pointy fangs of your average carnivore. But you can't tell me that canine teeth are meant for chomping leaves?
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    I just finished a giant ****ing double meat, double cheeseburger and onion rings.
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    I have a low-sugar high protien diet, basiclaly i dont liek sugar it makes me lethargic and i love protien cuz it gives me energy, also im lactose intolerant but i cope with an all day dairy pill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewH View Post
    Ok, maybe we wouldnt be living in caves. But you certainly wouldn't be able to enjoy any of the comforts of modern life. When everyone is busy hunting their next meal there's no time for innovation.
    Of course. Early humans NEVER innovated. They didn't create the atlatl or bows since they didn't have time.

    There's no way of saying that we woudln't have become more efficient at hunting and would have had a surplus of food anyway.

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    For a glimpse of how bizarre our fixation on diet can get, check out Breatharians. I remember as a kid seeing these folks on late night television--I think it was on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson who had a great time with them!

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    I especially like how committed some of them are, like Wiley Brooks...
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    i guess i would be "normal", even though i avoid fast food like the plague--which from what i hear is not normal for an american teenager.
    i like meat, and so i eat it.
    I am but mad by north-north west. When the wind is southerly i know a hawk from a handsaw. -Hamlet

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    Speaking of vegetarians, this one dips below ReverseLunge level:

    Soy is making our kids "gay"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint View Post
    I'm a lactard (lactose intolerant), to a rather rediculous degree, so I avoid milk at all costs.
    No offense, but the same study which "found" that vegetarians are on average more intelligent than meat-eaters also found, I believe, that those who eat no dairy are on average less intelligent than either...

    You see some of the problems with drawing conclusions from studies like these?


    Quote Originally Posted by sabreur View Post
    And if you look at our insides, the story is the same. True carnivores have intestinal tracks that look like a drag strip--straight through, basically. Not the long and winding road of the human large and small intestine....
    Neither do we have the digestive systems of true herbivores. ( Thank goodness. )

    We are omnivores. I doubt that many of us eat hamburgers without a bun, and without lettuce, tomato, pickles, catsup, etc. Who eats steak without a baked potato or whatever? Those are vegetable products. No one subsists entirely on meat, Jay Leno and Atkins dieters aside.

    We are omnivores. We are intended to eat everything. To be a vegetarian is like choosing to go through life with one eye shut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton View Post
    Of course. Early humans NEVER innovated. They didn't create the atlatl or bows since they didn't have time.
    Now you sound like the GEICO caveman.

    BTW, don't ever get hit in the head with an atlatl from the Pacific Northwest. It'll leave your brain Seattle atlatl addled.
    Use the Shift key, people! Keyboard manufacturers everywhere are ineffably saddened when you ignore what they made just for you!

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