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11-23-2006, 06:09 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: London UK
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| Sound of LP FIE club box...
Our club box which you can see at the top of the page here: http://www.leonpaulusa.com/fencing/a...lete_Sets.html
is going through a bit of a redesign and will soon feature LED lights making the battery life double to around 200 hours!!!
One of the things we are considering is a change to the sound it makes. It is very difficult to judge what will become annoying and some boxes have what I consider to be a verry annoying high pitched beep. If you have heard our boxes do you think the noise should be changed?
Comments on which box has your favorite noise would also be appreciated!
Alex
Last edited by Alex_Paul; 11-23-2006 at 06:11 AM.
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11-23-2006, 07:56 AM
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#2 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Austin, TX
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| A mocking "Ha ha" beep when it's a single light. | |
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11-23-2006, 10:17 AM
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#3 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| And "D'oh!" for off-targets.
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11-23-2006, 10:20 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| I have never seen or heard an LP box in person so I could not really say. Maybe you could attach a file of the current sound?
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11-23-2006, 10:21 AM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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| Carlos Mencia's "De - de deeee." | |
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11-23-2006, 12:37 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boston, MA
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| Eurgh. Worst buzzer noise ever. EVER.
Just my $0.02
Could... could you make the box be programmed to say "FINISH HIM" in sort of a Mortal Combat sort of way at 4-0? | |
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11-23-2006, 01:22 PM
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#7 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| Typical male chauvinism! What about when it's women fencing?!  
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11-23-2006, 05:08 PM
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#8 | | Member
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| Finish them then.
I personally don't like the noise, it's just a little too timnny for my tastes. A nice clean beep is in order methinks.
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11-23-2006, 11:24 PM
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#9 | | Just Joined
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| I just used an LP reel & box for the first time the other day - hated the buzz  So yes, I'd say change it. | |
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11-24-2006, 03:54 AM
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#10 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sweden
Posts: 2,996
| Hi!
How about putting in an USB port in the box, so that the user can connect it to his computer and download any sound file he wants?  
Should be something to make your product stand out among the others. The sound in a big competition with many of those boxes would be quite something, too.
Have a nice time!
Peter Gustafsson | |
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11-24-2006, 11:04 AM
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#11 | | Super Shoebie
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: VA
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| Speaking of endorsements a'la NASCAR
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Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson  Hi!
How about putting in an USB port in the box, so that the user can connect it to his computer and download any sound file he wants?
Should be something to make your product stand out among the others. The sound in a big competition with many of those boxes would be quite something, too.
Have a nice time!
Peter Gustafsson | So the venue could sell the box buzz to a sponsor...Intel comes immediately to mind - Do-Dum Dum-Dee... now getting Intel to pay for it...
hahahaha! | |
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11-24-2006, 02:32 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| vary it
You guys at Leon Paul seem to embrace improvements. My suggestion would be to have a variable pitch on any machine. It is vey helpful to the fencers to have machines, that are in close proximity to each other, with clearly different tones. If I were to be setting up a salle, or a tournament, I would keep different sounding machines on the same table. If I were buying equipment for a salle, I would currently have to buy scoring machines from several manufacturers to avoid the identical buzzers.
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11-25-2006, 12:19 AM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Joe biebel You guys at Leon Paul seem to embrace improvements. My suggestion would be to have a variable pitch on any machine. It is vey helpful to the fencers to have machines, that are in close proximity to each other, with clearly different tones. If I were to be setting up a salle, or a tournament, I would keep different sounding machines on the same table. If I were buying equipment for a salle, I would currently have to buy scoring machines from several manufacturers to avoid the identical buzzers. | Seconded. | |
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11-25-2006, 12:39 AM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe biebel You guys at Leon Paul seem to embrace improvements. My suggestion would be to have a variable pitch on any machine. It is vey helpful to the fencers to have machines, that are in close proximity to each other, with clearly different tones. | Anything to avoid those beat frequencies you often get with two boxes that are almost, but not quite, the same pitch! | |
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11-25-2006, 12:53 AM
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#15 | | Senior Member
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| I think you should invent your own distinct sound. Something like this one?
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11-25-2006, 06:33 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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| I almost wish I had not suggested asking the question.
Bill our USA Agent first mentioned he did not like the sound of our buzzer he said they were old fashioned. Having made club battery apparatuses for about 30 years using some sort of buzzer very simmillar to the ones we have now, I never realised that they were not any thing but fit for purpose. When fencing in a crowded club with lots of activity and noise the buzzer seemed to me to make sound which was of the correct intensity and not such a high pitch (like some of the italian models) which irritated. When fencing I always knew when i had hit or was hit 99% of the time and the noise activated at this instance was just confirmation of a hit. So it has never seemed inportant to have apparatuses with different sounds.
Listening to say the SG12 I am surprised how short and quiet the sound is, however no one has mentioned that they are too quiet. Any thoughts? | |
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11-25-2006, 08:00 AM
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#17 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Barry Paul Listening to say the SG12 I am surprised how short and quiet the sound is, however no one has mentioned that they are too quiet. Any thoughts? | I haven't had trouble with the SG12, but the Eigertek machines are remarkably quiet. In a larger hall they are almost impossible to hear. Either keep the same volume or make the volume variable. Didn't the old "bug-eye" LP boxes have variable volume or was that variable length of buzz?
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11-25-2006, 10:09 AM
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#18 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Austin, TX
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| I find the SG12 machines too quiet, yes, but the SG12ST, SG21 and SG31 don't seem to have that problem, and they (and the -11) are much more common where I work now. | |
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11-25-2006, 06:12 PM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Goldgar Anything to avoid those beat frequencies you often get with two boxes that are almost, but not quite, the same pitch! | Ahhh yes....the kind of dissonance that shakes your fillings out...
Reminds me of an old marching band joke....how do you get 2 piccolos that are on the same note in tune?
You shoot one of them! (and anyone who's ever heard 2 pics on the same pitch try and line it up....ain't possible!)
I'll second (third actually) the variable pitch idea....and for the same reasons. | |
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11-26-2006, 11:19 AM
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#20 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Somewhere in your nightmares!
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| How about a voice shouting "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!" 
Or maybe the Necromonger troop-recall klaxon from "Chronicles of Riddick".
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