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Old 11-26-2006, 06:08 PM   #21
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"FATALITY!" On every hit!

But in all seriousness, try to make a distinctive beep that isn't as annoying as some people believe it to be. Bla bla, useless post
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I know i've never used one before but i just can't get past the fact that it looks like a lego
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:04 PM   #23
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I know i've never used one before but i just can't get past the fact that it looks like a lego

Their looks are from a design period in which the square military look with cooling fins was the height of industrial design fashion. The problem from our perspective is that the apparatus is fit for purpose. Will run on its own internal batteries for about a years normal use three nights a week or from mains electricity. It is robust and has lights which can be seen 360 degrees and makes a loud enough sound that the fencers can hear it. Fits with two spools and ground leads in convenient carrying case. Made to F.I.E. regulations and easily updated with a replacement chip.
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Old 11-28-2006, 12:37 AM   #24
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From a practicality standpoint, you will not find a better scoring apparatus than the LP C620, for the reasons that Barry stated. My experience is that batteries tend to last a good deal longer than a year with regular use. The portability of this machine is one of its greatest features. If your club is based in a rec center or gym, this machine saves you the hassle of running extension cords and finding working outlets. This box is excellent for fencing demonstrations, in fact we used one for all of the demonstrations that were held in conjunction with the Atlanta Olympics (I suspect it will be used for the same purpose in London). I have always kind of liked the "Leggo" appearance, I just wish it beeped instead of buzzed!
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Old 11-28-2006, 07:46 AM   #25
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I would recommend that you add a function that allows you to turn the buzzer completely off. When you are training, you don't need the damned audible signal anyway (at least at my club, which has six strips hardwired with lights on the walls at the ends of the strips and the machines kept in a steel cabinet outside the fencing area). The constant buzzing is really annoying, especially when all the foilists go home, but don't turn their machines off!

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I would recommend that you add a function that allows you to turn the buzzer completely off. When you are training, you don't need the damned audible signal anyway (at least at my club, which has six strips hardwired with lights on the walls at the ends of the strips and the machines kept in a steel cabinet outside the fencing area). The constant buzzing is really annoying, especially when all the foilists go home, but don't turn their machines off!

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Seconded, my club also has an identical setup with the same issue.
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Old 12-06-2006, 01:29 PM   #27
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With a vote of 12 to 3 we give in.

All new club apparatus shipped to the USA will have a new beeper. It will not be variable in sound yet but should please most fencers.
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:36 PM   #28
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I miss the groaning buzzer on the old bug-eye LP scoring machines... heheh digitize that!
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I miss the groaning buzzer on the old bug-eye LP scoring machines... heheh digitize that!
Last Bug eyed box was made 35 years ago are they still working?
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Last Bug eyed box was made 35 years ago are they still working?
Yes and No. I have 2 from the Orange Coast Division. They are only backup for Epee. They work, but not well and adjusting the relays is an all day affair when they go out. It has been a couple of years, since they were used. I keep them for sentamental reasons. The division also owns a Kessinger and Uhlmann from the 60's and 4 '84 Uhlmanns.

The worse part is I have a few spares for the lenses.
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Last Bug eyed box was made 35 years ago are they still working?
There are still a couple used (for epee only) at some of the local colleges around me. Old, odd and not usable for foil/saber, but they are still around. Might be kind of cool to find some really ancient ones to use in an advert of some sort...
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my coach had two for in the early 90's still knockin around, and still working... need to round up a couple for a real "old timey" event... just for fun.
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