If you miss the JO qualifiers

[Cyrno]

Is there a way to petition to get into the JO's if you miss the regional qualifers.

[4qtrs]

Are you SoCal or NorCal?

You have to petition to the National office if you missed your division quals to JOs. The secreatary of your division should have the petition and fee information along with instructions that they can email to you.

[Cyrno]

I am in the NorCal division

[foildad]

The petition process is outlined on page 13 of the Athlete's Handbook, which is available at http://www.usfencing.org/usfa/compon...fileinfo/id,4/

Good luck

[4qtrs]

Remember to let the Secretary or Chair know that you are petitioning and why.

Good Luck!

[Cyrno]

Thanks for the link but i am still not sure about my situation. If I fenced in an NAC that could have qualified me for the JOs if I made the top 32 can I still petition if I miss the regional qualifiers.

[CvilleFencer]

Thanks for the link but i am still not sure about my situation. If I fenced in an NAC that could have qualified me for the JOs if I made the top 32 can I still petition if I miss the regional qualifiers.

I am a bit confused... Are you saying that you are an auto qualifier? If so you don't have to fence in the JO quals...

[AndrewH]

Yes, you just need some kind of evidence as to why you couldn't make the qualifiers (doctors note, military obligation, etc...), a letter from your division chair corraborating the evidence, some evidence of past results that indicate you would have qualified for JO's had you attended the qualifier, and of course the entry form and petition fee.

[AndrewH]

I am a bit confused... Are you saying that you are an auto qualifier? If so you don't have to fence in the JO quals...

I think whats hes asking is, would he be precluded from petitioning if he failed to make 32 at a Cadet/Junior NAC. And the answer would be no, so long as previous results showed he would have placed at his division qualifier.

[Cyrno]

No, I am not an auto qualifyer, but I fenced in an NAC in which I could have become an auto qualifier. Can I still petition even if I fenced in an NAC.

[foildad]

The fact that you fenced at a NAC and failed to make the 32 is irrelevent. You are still eligible to attempt to qualify at your divisional qualifiers. You can petition to qualify if you have a valid reason you cannot attend divisional qualifiers and your recent competitive results justify the appeal.

[KD5MDK]

It should be noted that attending a NAC, other tournament, or going to school in another division is not a legitimate cause to petition for.

[Cyrno]

I am out of town, Family emergency. They dont specify in the hand book but that seems like it should be a valid reason for missing the tournament.

[foildad]

I am out of town, Family emergency. They dont specify in the hand book but that seems like it should be a valid reason for missing the tournament.

Appeals are considered on a case by case basis, so it really will depend on your individual facts and circumstances. I am aware of a case where a petition was approved where a kid missed divisional qualifiers for summer nationals because his family was out of state for a family wedding, so I would think your appeal will be given a fair hearing as long as you have the results to back it up.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

The more money you put in the envelope, the more likely they will accept your appeal.

[HDG]

So what are valid excuses that people have first hand knowledge of having been accepted, and what sort of documentation has the USFA required? I ask b/c it looks like I'm going to miss quals for Summer Nats for business travel, and its my division hosting -- a double kick in the groin...

[4qtrs]

The more money you put in the envelope, the more likely they will accept your appeal.

Hmmm, in unmarked bills of course!

Just kidding, it depends lot on the situation. If you generally do well at division events it is a pretty good bet. Your Division Officers can help along with documented results.

[jjefferies]

Hmmm, in unmarked bills of course!

Just kidding, it depends lot on the situation. If you generally do well at division events it is a pretty good bet. Your Division Officers can help along with documented results.

In NorCal, the proper procedure is to pass the unmarked bills to the division treasurer who then arranges a major party which consumes the largess. We're trying to be very proper and develope appropriate procedures for all exigencies.

But seriously it would be appreciated if you made a good case for your not being able to participate. I've not done this before but I believe you can send the appeal to the division secretary or division chair. Your appeal would be considered by the board and discussed in terms of what precedents have been set in the past. My understanding is that the division can object to allowing the petition if it feels there is erroneous information in it. If the division does not object it does not take any action and the petition is considered by the USFA national office. What weapon are we discussing here?

[4qtrs]

In NorCal, the proper procedure is to pass the unmarked bills to the division treasurer who then arranges a major party which consumes the largess.

Sweet!

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

The real question you should ask yourself is "why do I deserve to go?"

Unless you're really a notch or twelve above the standard participants of the JO qualifiers, you may want to consider sucking it.