03-23-2002, 01:50 PM
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| On the rating system. If someone got their C in 00, they are labled a C00 even when they renew their C in 2001 & 02 since 2000 was when they originally earned the rating?
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03-23-2002, 02:05 PM
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| No, if you earned a C00, then won a C01 tournament, you are a C01. If you win a C02 the next year, your a C02.
Also to add onto the whole "dropping a level with no renewal" thing, you drop a level but your # becomes the current year. So, say you earned an A in 1997. At the beginning of the 2002 season, if you hadn't renenewed it, you become a B02, not a B97.
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03-23-2002, 04:10 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>not complaining, just thought making a central location would be good. If you look back at my post you will see that actually I suggested someting north of Austin, that wouldn't be fair to the North.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually I think they should weigh it based on where most of the fencers are located. Of course that would make the smaller (number-wise) divisions have to travel more but, ultimately, it would be less travel on average.
From last June's membership report from the USFA we have data which will hearten the mood and ease the travel expense of all the fencers in the Northeast (if they ever adopted this logic):
Division TOTAL
New England 1451
New Jersey 819
Long Island 532
Metropolitan 486
Southern CAL 461
Philadelphia 457
Cen Calif 452
South Texas 433
Virginia 411
North Carolina 407
Northern CAL 399
Michigan 388
Oregon 383
Northeast 344
Western PA 337
Colorado 333
Illinois 308
North Texas 284
Maryland 278
Georgia 267
Gulf Coast TX 267
Hud.-Berkshire 267
Kansas 262
Western Wash. 261
Mt. Valley, CA 249
Northern Ohio 242
Connecticut 240
Capitol 227
San Diego, CA 204
Utah-South Idaho 191
Nevada 190
Cen Florida 178
Ark-La-Miss 166
Indiana 156
Gateway, FL 144
Arizona 143
Wisconsin 143
Tennessee 141
Minnesota 140
Western NY 139
South Carolina 124
Westchester 121
New Mexico 118
Oklahoma 114
Southwest Ohio 113
Columbus, OH 112
Louisiana 104
San Bernardino 101
Iowa 97
Kentucky 96
Gold Coast FL 94
St. Louis, MO 89
Harrisburg 88
Alaska 84
South Jersey 84
Alabama 83
Plains, TX 75
Cen Penn 74
Orange Coast, CA 69
Neb./SoDak 66
Border,TX 61
National 61
Inland Empire 58
North Coast, CA 58
Hawaii 50
Wyoming 15
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03-23-2002, 04:44 PM
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| Sorry about the gap between the table and the text. I just can't seem to get it out of there.
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03-23-2002, 04:51 PM
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| Gave up on the HTML, it's just an ugly list now.
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03-23-2002, 07:53 PM
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| Paolo- Don't we just WISH that were the way it worked. With something like 5000 members within about 250 miles of NYC we'd have stuff up here every year.
Exclusive of the Youth NAC this year, the closest we've had anything in the past 3 years is Charlotte. 3 seasons ago there was a div II/III NAC in New Haven, CT. Yet we have 1/3 of the USFA within about a 3-4 hour drive. NYC might not be the best place for a national event, but someone in this area would be nice....
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03-24-2002, 02:09 AM
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| Who would what to go to New York ? A bunch **** Yankees. I been there in the Summer and it's not much better than S.C.
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03-24-2002, 03:16 AM
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| [quote]Originally posted by sallearmourer:
<strong>Who would what to go to New York ? A bunch **** Yankees. I been there in the Summer and it's not much better than S.C.
Tim </strong><hr></blockquote>
Tim,
I'll ignore your swipe at the greatest city in the world.
NYC would be a mess for a National Championship or NA cup (parking, cost etc. etc.). On the other hand, a place like Syracuse, NY is beautiful in the summer (went to school there). Any part of Pennsylvania would be nice, also.
NE is great in the summer, but I guess that it would be too far for the rest of the country.
I would suggest Idaho, but you'll need electricty to run the machines and running water for the showers. 
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03-24-2002, 06:35 AM
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| Paolo, don't they have a world cup for WF in NYC? What venue do they use? I agree with you totally though, parking/costs would be a nightmare, though I'd still put my vote in for NYC since I'm so close.
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03-24-2002, 08:15 AM
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| World Cups are MUCH smaller than nationals. The sabre cup held in Boston has (until this year when it's actually being moved into Boston) has been held in the gym of a local high school. NYC undoubtedly has one or more convention centers which would have no problem handling a NAC or nationals, but the cost would be prohibitive. I wasn't trying to suggest NYC as appropriate. I'll take anywhere within a couple of hours of NYC and be happy. (Note: I live in Western Massachusetts, actually being IN NYC wouldn't help me much). There has to be somewhere in Albany, PA, NJ, CT (or somewhere like that) that can host.
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03-24-2002, 08:44 AM
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| Forgive me for throwing politics into this conversation, but I would prefer to avoid ever going to a state whose populace will elect Hillary Clinton for senator.
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03-24-2002, 01:04 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>Forgive me for throwing politics into this conversation, but I would prefer to avoid ever going to a state whose populace will elect Hillary Clinton for senator.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Or GW as governor? Or Phil Gramm as senator?
There's the pot calling the kettle black...
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03-24-2002, 01:10 PM
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| Then don't come to Texas and I won't go to New York
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03-24-2002, 01:42 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>Then don't come to Texas and I won't go to New York </strong><hr></blockquote>
OK, but if you're going to be an épéeist, one day, you're going to have to come to NY...
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03-24-2002, 02:24 PM
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| [quote]
I would suggest Idaho, but you'll need electricty to run the machines and running water for the showers.
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03-24-2002, 02:36 PM
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| Why am I going to need to come to Ny as an Epeeist?
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03-24-2002, 03:52 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>Why am I going to need to come to Ny as an Epeeist?</strong><hr></blockquote>
'Cause that's where the best ones in the country are. (Which has nothing whatsoever to do with me being here; in fact, I'm actually lowering the standard of Metropolitan area épée)
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03-25-2002, 04:07 AM
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| If Id. didn't have water and power why is Califionia keeps trying to steal them. We have running water it might be cold this time of year coming off the mountains but we do have running water. Also we do have power to. Grant it not eveyone as internet access. There is a couple of towns that don't have phone service yet.
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| [quote]Originally posted by damianip:
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OK, but if you're going to be an épéeist, one day, you're going to have to come to NY...
Paolo</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nah. You can always go to Europe.
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03-25-2002, 05:44 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by Inquartata:
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Nah. You can always go to Europe. </strong><hr></blockquote>
True, but stopping in NY first might somewhat prepare you for what's going to "happen" to you in Europe.
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