11-10-2006, 04:55 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Albuquerque NAC Results? Stories? Kvetching? Those holding down the fort at home want to know. |
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11-10-2006, 09:30 PM
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| The food for refs was good today.....it moved along pretty quickly too....all in all a good day.
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11-10-2006, 09:46 PM
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| Bringing you the shocking news right from the front! ..... when I got released, I actually left the venue!?!?!
We now return to regularly scheduled posting...
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11-10-2006, 11:56 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| Who won Cadet Men's Foil? |
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11-11-2006, 12:49 AM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by eac Who won Cadet Men's Foil? | Alex Simmons |
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11-11-2006, 01:04 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Aww yeah! Give the USFA a new website and they do something with it! Full results from the first day are posted. Awesome! |
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11-13-2006, 12:20 PM
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#7 | | Just Joined
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| Did anyone find JrMF results a bit random? Sure times are changing, but the 200 man tournament with 1 round of pools, rating inflation, and the new timings, has got to have something to do w/it. |
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11-13-2006, 01:12 PM
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#8 | | Just Joined
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| My son fenced in the cadet foil and we stayed through the final and saw some really fine fencing. The best match we saw was Simmons/Meinhardt. The way Meinhardt and DeSmet were fencing we were surprised to see both of them go out in the round of 8. It was a long day for the cadets. The armory line took well over an hour. Pools started at around 9 and the final didn't finish until around 6:30. |
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11-13-2006, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lecrivain06 Did anyone find JrMF results a bit random? Sure times are changing, but the 200 man tournament with 1 round of pools, rating inflation, and the new timings, has got to have something to do w/it. | Yeah, results seem a little off to say the least. I kinda want to see the full results for a better idea of the what the hell went on.
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11-13-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdawg2121 Yeah, results seem a little off to say the least. I kinda want to see the full results for a better idea of the what the hell went on. | That line on the USFA website about "click here for full results in PDF form" has me hopeful for more info. |
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11-14-2006, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdawg2121 Yeah, results seem a little off to say the least. I kinda want to see the full results for a better idea of the what the hell went on. | One round-of-8 bout had some result-changing reversed calls, but I feel too guilty to say which one. But generally, yes, I was very annoyed to see many instances of people being in rounds that they shouldn't have been in, and bouts that should have happened much earlier or later.
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11-14-2006, 11:02 PM
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| If you are refering to the Meinhardt(sp) Chinman bout, I will admit that there were 2 blown calls that in the middle of Chinmans rally that cost Meinhardt the bout. I know that DeSmet was a bit off in pools and dropped a bout to a counter attacker. I understand that he had the same problem in the DE he lost. Quote:
Originally Posted by eac One round-of-8 bout had some result-changing reversed calls, but I feel too guilty to say which one. But generally, yes, I was very annoyed to see many instances of people being in rounds that they shouldn't have been in, and bouts that should have happened much earlier or later. |
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11-14-2006, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lecrivain06 Did anyone find JrMF results a bit random?... | Random? I have no idea what you're talking about. I think it is perfectly normal that my 15 year old unranked son earned his "A" at a junior NAC. He's been fencing three years; it's about friggin' time. 
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11-15-2006, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by foildad Random? I have no idea what you're talking about. I think it is perfectly normal that my 15 year old unranked son earned his "A" at a junior NAC. He's been fencing three years; it's about friggin' time.  | Yer buckin fer that spreadsheet again, foildad! :P
Congrats to your son!
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11-15-2006, 01:37 AM
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| Assuming the info given was accurate there is only one person that fits the description. Quote:
Originally Posted by FencingKitten Yer buckin fer that spreadsheet again, foildad! :P
Congrats to your son! |
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11-15-2006, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by foildad Random? I have no idea what you're talking about. I think it is perfectly normal that my 15 year old unranked son earned his "A" at a junior NAC. He's been fencing three years; it's about friggin' time.  | Unranked?! He's a Cadet and was in the top 32 Cadets back in October.  |
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11-15-2006, 02:38 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
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| The altitude was hard on the fencers.
Dryness was hard on everyone.
(They could have sold USFA chapstick.)
Shuttle service was good.
Food at and around the venue was bad.
Heard the Hilton was bad and the Embassy Suites good.
Smallest fonts ever. (The USFA could sell magnifying glasses for parents and fencers to read the pools and DE's.) |
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11-15-2006, 02:52 PM
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#18 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Pennsauken, NJ
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| I had no problems with the Hilton.
Either the length of the days, the altitude, or some combination certainly seemed to be having a noticible effect in some bouts. While reffing I had multiple bouts where one fencer simply stopped thinking/fencing at some point (in at least a couple of occasions while ahead) and promptly lost nearly every remaining touch in the bout. Many bouts where fencers were sucking wind to a very noticible degree.
While this is always true to some degree, I noticed more of it in Albuquerque than I had in the past (including at the same event last year, which presumably should have had similar effects).
The Temple fencers who went placed 3rd and 16th in their events, so that's good. Having 44 strips made a significant difference in ending times in the evening. Very good job by the Head Referees on managing personnel and giving appropriate feedback, from what I observed.
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11-15-2006, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by foildad Random? I have no idea what you're talking about. I think it is perfectly normal that my 15 year old unranked son earned his "A" at a junior NAC. He's been fencing three years; it's about friggin' time.  | Congrats, he did well!!! |
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11-15-2006, 03:05 PM
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| Unranked as in he has no Jr points, well had. He did have a rating, but he was not on the Jr point rankings. Quote:
Originally Posted by JMcC Unranked?! He's a Cadet and was in the top 32 Cadets back in October.  |
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