Fantasy Fencing Game: FIE Senior Men's Foil Season Game

[three_hundred_fifty_five]

Now that the World Championships are done, there is a new fencing season ahead.

This game will score points for contestants throughout the 2001-2002 fencing season, starting with tournaments in January 2002 and going until the World Championships in August of 2002.

Everything can be obtained from www.fie.ch

Here is how this game will work.
1. Each contestant gets to select 5 senior men's foil fencers of the 336 fencers who are currently listed on the FIE website.
Go to Résultats for Type: Classements, Armes; Fleuret, Sexe: Masculin, and Catégorie: Senior.
The Total points for each fencer are listed in the first column after each fencer's name.

2. You can select any five fencers but the total number of points cannot go over 300.
For example:
Salvatore Sanzo = 216
Antoine Mercier = 78
Michael Pasinkoff = 2
Alexander Wood = 2
Gidon Ratzkin = 2
TOTAL = 300

or

Elvis Gregory = 44
Matteo Zennaro = 44
Serge Golubitsky = 53
Jean-Noel Ferrari = 72
Andre Wessels = 85
TOTAL = 298


3. You don't have to use all 300 points. Your total points of all fencers can be less than 300.

4. You must select 5 fencers. You cannot have less than five and you cannot have more than five.

5. You cannot change any fencers you have selected after January 11, 2002.

6. You cannot select the same person more than once.


The SCORING
1. Go to Résultats for Type: Compétitions, Armes; Fleuret, Sexe: Masculin, and Catégorie: Senior; and Type Classements to obtain information for scoring.

2. If your fencer got first place in a competition, you get 50 points.
If your fencer got second place in a competition, you get 25 points.
If your fencer got third or fourth place in a competition, you get 15 points.
If your fencer got fifth through eighth place in a competition, you get 5 points.

3. If two of your fencers placed in the top four, you get 10 points.
If three of your fencers placed in the top four, you get 20 points.
If four of your fencers placed in the top four, you get 40 points.

4. For each fencer you have in the top 100, you take 101 and subtract their ranking and multiply that by 2. For example, if you have Salvatore Sanzo and he is still in first place, you take 101 and subtract 1. So you get 100 points multiplied by 2 so your points for Salvatore Sanzo would be 200. Second place gets 198 and so on. These points are calculated along with scoring rules 2 and 3.

5. If you have a fencer who was ranked below the top ten and moved into the top ten after a competition, you get 50 points. If you have a fencer who dropped below tenth place but later went back up into the top 10, you get the 50 points.

6. There are no rules to lose points. It should be difficult enough to score points.

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: three_hundred_fifty_five ]

[Cyranox11]

Hi
Here are my selections:

Vanni (ITA) WR: 12 Points: 93
Gomes (POR) WR: 13 Points: 92
Wang (CHN) WR: 34 Points: 47
Pozdniakov (RUS) WR: 45 Points: 36
Magni (ITA) WR: 52 Points: 32

Lets hope I am better this time round...

[Cyranox11]

355,
Should we not put in a proviso that you lose some points everytime someone who was ranked in the top 10 drops out of the top 10?
What about losing points if your fencers are not in the top 64 ie they are no shows or dont make the cut?
This will put some pressure on people to think twice about selecting no-hopers and 1 or 2 sure things?
Does scoring condition number 4 apply after each competition or only at the end of the seaon?
What about differentiating between Grand Prix events and others by giving bonus points for GPs, which attract a somewhat stronger field?
Just some ideas...
Cyranox11

[three_hundred_fifty_five]

Here are my selections:
1. David Hausmann (GER), WR: 19, Points: 73
2. Marco Ramacci (ITL), WR: 27, Points: 60
3. Dominik Behr (GER), WR: 72, Points: 72
4. Simone Vanni (ITL), WR: 12, Points: 93
5. Alexander Wood (USA), WR: 315, Points: 2

[latenight]

here are my selections:

1.Franck Boidin(FRA), WR:5, Points:134
2.Simone Vanni(ITA), WR:12, Points:93
3.Atilla Juhasz(HUN), WR:47, Points:35
4.Yan Zhuang(CHN), WR:63, Points:23
5.Rouslan Nassibouline(RUS), WR:89, Points:15

[latenight]

This could be a lot of fun. Any interest in doing woman's foil also?

[Cyranox11]

Yo Latenight,
Yes it is interesting.
It is also interesting to see the different approaches taken by people!
I would prefer Men's Epee: it is a bit more open (and thus more interesting) than Ladies' Foil dont you think?

[Cyranox11]

Only 1 of my fencers participated in Cairo and he (Gomes) narrowly missed a top eight (he placed 10th), but I still get points for those fencers in the top 100:
By my calcs they are:
Gomes: 174
Vanni: 172
Wang: 128
Pozdniakov: 102
Magni: 92

TOTAL: 668

Latenight, you get:
Boidin 190
Vanni 172
Juhasz 134
Zhuang 66
Nassibouline 8

TOTAL 570

Boidin narrowly missed a top eight, finnishing ninth!

355, you get:
Hausmann 158
Ramacci 144
Behr 154
Vanni 172
Wood 0

TOTAL 628

Its only a three way race but it is tight...
Interesting that we all selected Vanni...

[latenight]

Thanks for doing the totals!

I never have the time to add them all up. Looks like this could be close!
-L-

[three_hundred_fifty_five]

It's just us 3. Thanks Cyranox11 for calculating scores.

I think we all chose Vanni for his consistent results, no?

[Cyranox11]

You guys are most welcome!
Yes, Vanni is consistent and a damn fine chap to have in your corner: cant complain about paying a mere 93 points for a European Individual Champion can you.
I think he is a really promising young foilist...

[Cyranox11]

Yo
Ok it was the Paris comp at the weekend.
Here are the results:
Latenight: 563 (Including 15 points for Boidin coming 3rd.)
355: 651 (Including 15 points for Ramacci coming 3rd.)
Cyrano: 682 (No bonus points.)

Therefore after the second round the placings are:
1st Cyrano 1350 pts
2nd 355 1279 pts
3rd Latenight 1133 pts

[Cyranox11]

Its that time again:
Cyrano: Vanni 174+ Gomes 178+ Wang 130+ Pozdniakov 102+ Magni 116= 700+1350=2050 (No bonus points.)
355: Vanni 174+ Hausmann 162+ Behr 168+ Ramacci 158+ Wood 0=662+5 (Behr)=667+1279=1946
Latenight: Boidin 192+ Vanni 174+ Juhasz 122+ Zhuang 74+ Nassibouline 48= 610+5 (Boidin)=615+1133=1748
So, I am holding on with 355 closing and Latenight is starting to drift.

[Cyranox11]

Seoul Results are in:
Cyrano: Vanni 178+ Gomes 182+ Wang 134+ Pozdniakov 116+ Magni 114=724+50 (Gomes)+2050=2824
355: Vanni 178+ Hausmann 160+ Behr 170+ Ramacci 172+ Wood 0=680+5 (Ramacci)+1946=2631
Latenight: Boidin 194+ Vanni 178+ Juhasz 126+ Zhuang 78+ Nassibouline 98= 674+1748=2422

[latenight]

Thanks for doing the numbers!

[Cyranox11]

OK Shanghai results are IN:
Cyrano: Vanni 180+ Gomes 178+ Wang 128+ Pozdniakov 110+ Magni 108=704+2824=3528
355: Vanni 180+ Hausmann 164+ Behr 174+ Ramacci 176+ Wood 0=694+2631=3325
Latenight: Boidin 192+ Vanni 180+ Juhasz 120+ Zhuang 76+ Nassibouline 92=660+2422=3082

[Cyranox11]

Venice is in:
Cyrano: Vanni 186+ Gomes 180+ Wang 126+ Pozdniakov 108+ Magni 142=742+50 (Vanni)+15 (Magni)+10(Vanni+Magni)+50(Vanni)=867+3528=4395
355: Vanni 186+ Hausmann 164+ Behr 176+ Ramacci 178+ Wood 0=704+50 (Vanni)+50 (Vanni)=804+3325=4129
Latenight: Boidin 192+ Vanni 186+ Juhasz 118+ Zhuang 80+ Nassibouline 96=672+50 (Vanni) +50 (Vanni)=772+3082=3854
A good day to have Vanni and Magni in your Team!

[Cyranox11]

ZALAEGERSZEG results are in:

Cyrano: Vanni 190+ Gomes 178+ Wang 118+ Pozdniakov 108+ Magni 142=736+4395=5131
355: Vanni 190+ Hausmann 154+ Behr 172+ Ramacci 174+ Wood 0=690+4129=4819
Latenight: Boidin 194+ Vanni 190+ Juhasz 102+ Zhuang 82+ Nassibouline 92=660+3854=4514

[Cyranox11]

Bonn GP results are in:
Cyrano: Vanni 186+ Gomes 176+ Wang 0+ Pozdniakov 108+ Magni 148=618+5131=5749
355: Vanni 186+ Hausmann 0+ Behr 142+ Ramacci 170+ Wood 0=498+4819=5317
Latenight: Boidin 194+ Vanni 186+ Juhasz 106+ Zhuang 0 + Nassibouline 120=606+4514=5120



Seems we are all losing valuable points!!!