Typical Army Thinking

**sallearmourer** · 08-25-2002 06:02 PM

My oldest son is at West Point and just made the Sabre team this would be good news yet he is a D rated epee fencer. The last time he fence sabre was 1998 when he won The pacific northwest under 19 Sec championship. Now I am going have to get him a new sabre lame.

Tim

[ 08-26-2002, 12:13 AM: Message edited by: sallearmourer ]

**swordsen** · 08-25-2002 06:22 PM

West point won't get him a sabre lame? The Army is being chintzier than usual.

**sallearmourer** · 08-25-2002 06:33 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by sallearmourer:
My oldest son is at West Point and just made the Sabre team this would be good news yet he is a D rated epee fencer. The last time he fence sabre was 1998 when he won The pacific northwest under 19 Sec championship. Now I am going have to get him a new sabre lame. I meant to eidt and not quote myself and yes he has to supply is own fenceing equipment

Tim

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**Mergs** · 08-26-2002 06:42 AM

The Army "team" is a club, not a varsity sport, therefore there is no funding for individual equipment. Nor, does there seem to be any funding for lodging/food when they travel to at least the Service Championships. Last year the poor kids had to pay for these themselves (albeit, the Army did pay for their transportation). Am trying to find out who controls those kind of funds at the HQDA level.

**Catlady** · 08-26-2002 06:15 PM

Well, you know what they say about military intelligence. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> BTW that joke makes my dad crazy, and while he spent time in the army back in the dark ages--as I like to say when I'm teasing him--I didn't think he enjoyed the experience all that much.

**Inquartata** · 08-26-2002 06:41 PM

Making sabre fencers out of epeeists makes perfect sense to me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

**sallearmourer** · 08-26-2002 06:58 PM

I think I am going to get him one of the new washable silver lame from BG. I had to make him two new bodycords for his long reach. He used to break his bodycord at the connect because of his lunge. The standard cord was too short.

Tim

**Purple Fencer** · 08-26-2002 07:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by sallearmourer:
I think I am going to get him one of the new washable silver lame from BG. I had to make him two new bodycords for his long reach. He used to break his bodycord at the connect because of his lunge. The standard cord was too short.

Tim

<hr /></blockquote>Having a father who's an armorer is AWFUL convenient...no?

**HilandDoug** · 08-27-2002 09:34 AM

Tim, I would highly recommend the Infinity Saber Lame. They are light, pretty durable, and washable. I know a few people who use them and are very happy with them.

**sallearmourer** · 08-27-2002 09:47 AM

Has someone who as repaired a number of them it was not even consider due to my son sabre style.The first thing my wife and daughter said no infinity lame.

Tim

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**oiuyt** · 08-27-2002 03:06 PM

And add to the fact that Infinity isn't currently making any more which makes getting a new one a tad difficult....

-B

**counter riposte** · 08-27-2002 03:19 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Inquartata:
Making sabre fencers out of epeeists makes perfect sense to me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Typical Army Intelligence. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

But then again, shouldn't the club team have equipment of it's own? Or should I refer to the above quote...

**Purple Fencer** · 08-28-2002 09:09 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by oiuyt:
And add to the fact that Infinity isn't currently making any more which makes getting a new one a tad difficult....

-B

<hr /></blockquote>Wha' hoppen??

**oiuyt** · 08-28-2002 09:40 AM

Sam- my understanding is that Jeff Salmon was having difficulties with the manufacturer or something (I don't have any details). Then the design firm that did the patterns (and still had them, Jeff apparently DOESN'T have a copy) misplaced them somehow. IIRC, Jeff doesn't currently have the patterns, patterns are expensive to get made up, he's trying to get the original design firm to find them.

But I don't really have any details and most of the above information is at least 2nd-3rd hand so mileage may vary and I don't vouch for any of it.

-B

**fred** · 09-05-2002 12:30 AM

Originally posted by Mergs
The Army "team" is a club, not a varsity sport, therefore there is no funding for individual equipment.

Wasn't fencing *required* at one time at West Point? Patton must be turning over in his grave. He'd be happy about this sabre business, though. I think he wrote the last U.S. Army manual on the use of the cavalry sabre.

**DHCJr** · 09-05-2002 06:30 PM

Yes, it was required and here are two interesting facts. The title of the head of the Athletic Department (and he insists on keeping it) is 'Master of the Sword'. The cadets are better off then the midshipmen, they are not even allowed to have a club.

**counter riposte** · 09-05-2002 06:47 PM

Yes, let's call the headmaster of sport "Master of the Sword", and then not teach the students how to use one.

Wow. What a master.

**Inquartata** · 09-05-2002 10:45 PM

And what accredited institution awarded him the title "Master"?

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