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09-25-2006, 10:37 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Saluting for La Belle Touche
When you reach a tie score and the next touch determines the bout do you salute your opponent? I am curious what the general fencing community thinks of this tradition. The coach for my Salle beleives in this and I am wondering how widespread it still is.
I'm trying to make this a poll. I hope it works since I don't remember how. 
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09-25-2006, 10:54 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| I don't, but I see a lot of people do it. I'll return the salute if someone else starts it (fairly haphazardly, mind you, very unlike my normal salute), but I'll never start it.
I think it's silly myself.
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09-25-2006, 10:56 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| I don't do it. I'm thinking about the next touch.
If someone else makes a big deal about it, like keropie, I'll wave my sword around as if I care. | |
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09-25-2006, 11:03 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs I don't do it. I'm thinking about the next touch.
If someone else makes a big deal about it, like keropie, I'll wave my sword around as if I care. | I do it. I don't remember being taught to do it, but then I don't really remember being taught to salute before the bout either. It's not a big deal, and I don't really care whether you also salute.  | |
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09-25-2006, 11:27 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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| I do and I used to be pretty formal about it. The more I fenced, the less I really worried about it (especially if the bout's this close).
I still salute unless I forget, but it's more akin to mrbiggs's waving-around-as-if-I-care method.
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09-25-2006, 11:36 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| I salute for just about anything. It's sort of a nervous twitch for me. For La Belle, it depends on how much I'm paying attention and how much I'm just focusing on the touch as to if I remember... | |
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09-26-2006, 12:24 AM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| I salute. Because my grandpappy taught me to always be polite to the person I'm about to destroy. | |
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09-26-2006, 12:30 AM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Morion When you reach a tie score and the next touch determines the bout do you salute your opponent? | I do. I like these little formalities for their own sake, and most of the time , if it gets to la belle, I think my opponent has earned a gesture of respect. | |
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09-26-2006, 12:53 AM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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| Ah what the hell, if a small wrist movement makes someone happy, why not. They've given me a bout, I might as well salute. | |
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09-26-2006, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Morion When you reach a tie score and the next touch determines the bout do you salute your opponent? | Usually no, but I suppose if it was a more 'important' bout like a DE I might do it.
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09-26-2006, 05:30 AM
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| I've never scored more than 3 hits against anyone so don't ask me, buddy!
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09-26-2006, 08:38 AM
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| Im always salute. And if the other person doesn't salute back, I smash my bellguard into his mask right before I score the last point.
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09-26-2006, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Goldgar I do. I like these little formalities for their own sake, and most of the time , if it gets to la belle, I think my opponent has earned a gesture of respect. | ...and so have you.
I do salute at la belle touche. | |
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09-26-2006, 08:58 AM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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| I like people to respect me on the strip, so I try to afford them the same respect. I think it's only polite.
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09-26-2006, 09:10 AM
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| I think it's rude, abnoxious and silly.
Before and after the match it's great - not during.
Critical points are not the time to get swishy.
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09-26-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Goldgar I do. I like these little formalities for their own sake, and most of the time , if it gets to la belle, I think my opponent has earned a gesture of respect. | I concur w/ Mr. Goldgar. If you have to salute everyone strip side and the audience too, why not afford the extra measure of courtesy and respect to a well matched opponent
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09-26-2006, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee I think it's rude, abnoxious and silly.
Before and after the match it's great - not during.
Critical points are not the time to get swishy. | I wouldn't say rude, but I certainly agree with the obnoxious and silly part.
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09-26-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee I think it's rude, abnoxious and silly.
Before and after the match it's great - not during.
Critical points are not the time to get swishy. | Such is the courtesy of epeeists.
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09-26-2006, 10:03 AM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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| It occurred to me this morning that this is a French term. Would the correct spelling be "Le Belle Touche"?
*sigh* I am such a bumpkin! 
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09-26-2006, 10:10 AM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| I do it, and nearly all British fencers seem to do it, even in training.
It may be silly, but it has no bearing on the deciding hit and is a nice gesture of mutual respect.
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