USACFC Map

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by TrojanMD

I remember - I think it's amazing that Florida manages to make the trip, and it really adds to the tournament. The more the merrier - this year's Invite is being held by Berkeley, and anyone who is interested should think about coming out!!

For that matter, Temple's club program* has attended the past two years (and anticipates continuing).

-B
*note: Temple has both a varsity women's team and a co-ed club program with disjoint membership.

[rustica]

I did a search on USACFC to see if I could find an answer to this question:

Are graduate students allowed to compete? Suppose they did their 4 years for NCAA and now are in grad school but still fencing. What are the rules, or do they vary from school to school?

Thanks!

[oiuyt]

One must be a student and fulfill any eligiblity requirements at the school one attends. Other than that, yes, grad students, including ex-NCAA athletes, are eligible.

In a more specific example, I fenced at Johns Hopkins (NCAA) for four years. I then fenced for UMass (club) for a year in grad school. I am now employed by Temple University and, taking advantage of my tuition remission benefit, taking classes. I am eligible to compete in USACFCs (although I have no intention of actually doing so).

Originally Posted by USACFC Constitution

Athletes are eligible to compete and represent their collegiate clubs at the championships if they meet all of the following criteria:
1) The athlete must be a registered student enrolled in and attending class at the
college he/she represents.
2) The athlete must meet all the membership criteria specified by that specific
collegiate club.

-B

[seak]

are part time students allowed or only full time?

also (for no real reason) I am curious if I full time graduate student who met NCAA elegibility criteria would be allowed to fence the Temple Open. The information has always said only undergrads, but grad students can in rare cases be NCAA athlete eligible

[oiuyt]

For USACFCs part-time students are eligible, if they meet the eligibility requirements for their school's club (assuming here that "part-time" still fulfills the requirement of being registered and attending class(es)). The quoted text IS the requirements.

For Temple Open the requirement is full-time undergrad. Grad students that are part of varsity teams are not eligible to enter. Undergrads that are not part of teams, including when their school has a team that might also be attending, are eligible. Basically we don't care about team affiliation, we care about student status.

-B

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!

Originally Posted by Wafath

I have generated a few maps of existing and potential USACFC teams. Some of you may find it interesting:

http://wayne.umdfencing.com/

The intent of this work is to provide visual aids for any possible regionalizeation conversations. It also kind of looks cool.

It is interesting to contrast this map with the fencing.net map of fencing clubs in the US. The fencing.net map gives a good indication of where there is fencing, and often where there is fencing, there are collegiate fencing clubs.


W

I appreciate your work, and the result does look cool. I thought that I would try to do something similar for Swedish fencing clubs, but when Igo to google earth I do not find any mention on how to put out the map buttons. How did you do it?


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

[Cerian]

NCIFL has a bunch of alleged member schools.

However, as far as schools that actually show up go, there would be...

CalPoly SLO
CCSF
SRJC
UCB
UCD
UCSC (kicking off the season Halloween weeked with individual and team competitions...)

[Wafath]

Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson

I appreciate your work, and the result does look cool. I thought that I would try to do something similar for Swedish fencing clubs, but when Igo to google earth I do not find any mention on how to put out the map buttons. How did you do it?

Thank you, Peter.

I used "Gmapez" (http://bluweb.com/us/chouser/gmapez/), because I am lazy. The other way is to go is to directly access the Google Maps API, (http://www.google.com/apis/maps/), which is slightly more complicated, but is the way most people do it.

Also, if you like, I can email you the source code I used to generate the map from a flat-file. That is, if you promise not to give me grief for my comment free Perl code.

W

[Wafath]

Originally Posted by Cerian

However, as far as schools that actually show up go, there would be...

CalPoly SLO
CCSF
SRJC
UCB
UCD
UCSC (kicking off the season Halloween weeked with individual and team competitions...)

GAHH!

Assume for the moment that I am an idiot, and that what you just posted here is nothing but alphebet soup to me.

Now, are any of these teams actually missing from the list of the second map? Do any of them have incorrect information?

And if you want me to add a team, please tell me the full name of the school, and maybe even a zip code within an H-bomb blast radius, so I can more easily find the school. Please?

Thanks,

W

[TrojanMD]

You're covered - they are all on the map. For the record, though ..

CalPoly SLO - CalPoly San Luis Obispo
CCSF - City College of San Francisco
SRJC - Santa Rosa Junior College
UCB - UC Berkeley
UCD - UC Davis
UCSC - UC Santa Cruz

[seak]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

For Temple Open the requirement is full-time undergrad. Grad students that are part of varsity teams are not eligible to enter. Undergrads that are not part of teams, including when their school has a team that might also be attending, are eligible. Basically we don't care about team affiliation, we care about student status.

-B

curious as to why? I would think NCAA elegibility would be the biggest issue? (for example at the moment UMD clasifies me as an undergrad but I wouldn't be NCAA eligible, not that I'm going to be fencing at Temple anyways)/

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by seak

curious as to why? I would think NCAA elegibility would be the biggest issue? (for example at the moment UMD clasifies me as an undergrad but I wouldn't be NCAA eligible, not that I'm going to be fencing at Temple anyways)/

Legacy reasons? Because we're open to non-NCAA programs? Because it's an individual tournament, not a team event? Pick your choice.

-B

[oiuyt]

More information about the (2006) Temple Open.

-B

[seak]

And here I was just starting to figure out where all the gyms in McGonigle Hall were, and the best way to get between them

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by seak

And here I was just starting to figure out where all the gyms in McGonigle Hall were, and the best way to get between them :)

On the brighter side, in the Pav there's only one giant room.

-B