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Old 09-22-2006, 03:40 AM   #21
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I agree with Craig. Good Kendo is actually great to watch. They have great accuracy and speed and it does take a lot of skill to master much like our fencing.
In other words good kendo is like good fencing, and bad kendo is like foil?
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i want to make fun of foil too, but every time i do someones at the club yells at me...

thanks for the help, i knew i was fencing to close the other night and the kid noramly does not fence like that...but he was eating candy before class i think. i generaly dont like younger kids much anyway.

but yeah, thanks for the quick responce.
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:44 AM   #23
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Kendo is gay.

Its an excuse for swinging a stick around.
Those guys wear armor and hit with force.
We wear skin tight white suits reminiscent of astronauts.

Don't try so hard to be the Ricky Bobby of fencing.
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But then what happens when you get to competition and you have to fence someone with equally weird tactics? It does happen.
Perishingly rarely, in my experience. That is, you'll meet bad fencers, novice fencers, classical fencers and idiosyncratic "stylists". But you will seldom run into fencers who are doing bizarre stuff on purpose in serious competitions.

The only such encounter I can recall is Haj Matsukata and his "drunken style" fencing last year. That was entertaining, if perhaps not terribly effective. But then he's a good conventional sabre fencer in "real life", so there's not a realy good comparison to this case...
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:13 PM   #25
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Perishingly rarely, in my experience. That is, you'll meet bad fencers, novice fencers, classical fencers and idiosyncratic "stylists". But you will seldom run into fencers who are doing bizarre stuff on purpose in serious competitions.
Bear in mind that you and MP compete in different spheres; I've have fencing experience in many different places and levels, and I have seen some concentrations of people with decidely interesting interpretations of fencing...
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I fence somewhat like you speak of I usually fence classical and if I either 1)get a great lead or 2) can't seem to get past them I will use other moves that other people don't use but sitting on the strip seems stupid isn't there a rule against that? 3) I will use a parry prim'e I think thats how its spelt because when someone attacks me I can use that go around and over their blade and it works great i have even use this in epee believe it or not.....and whoever makes fun of foil is just jealous. One thing you could try though is just using another crazy move against them or just practice with them and watch them use their moves that way you know what they are trying or waiting for someone to do.

The best advise I think is to watch them bout and see what works if another fencer lunges his sitting thing and it works 3 out of 4 times then you could use that.

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Old 09-23-2006, 03:58 PM   #27
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but he kicks my a$$ when he does stuff like this,
lmao. thanks for the moment of levity.... really funny to hear someone complaining about that.... (sometimes i have the same problem, of course).
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:59 PM   #28
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You guys are right about kendo, it can be good or bad.

Some people have come in to the club though, and use "kendo" as an excuse for sucking.
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Saying you can't fence well because of Kendo is like saying you can't play do Muay Thai because you fence.

Both are extremely different.
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wow, i was not expecting that many replies.

about the person, i failed to mention that he is younger and overly hyper.
i have seen him fence and do good acting normal. his stlye is lazy anyway, he is the kind of epeeist that lunges too far when he does not even have a target, then lets his point fall right to the floor when he tries to recover...that is if he does not lose his balence and fall over.


thanks for the advice


off topic but...
i was sopposed to go to a compition yesterday...but kinda got lost and ended up going the wrong way down a oneway street...yeah, so you people that own clubs need to make them easier to get to! the city is all highway and oneway streets, so if you take one wrong turn you have no way to get back.
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Old 09-26-2006, 04:37 AM   #31
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Bear in mind that you and MP compete in different spheres; I've have fencing experience in many different places and levels, and I have seen some concentrations of people with decidely interesting interpretations of fencing...

Fair enough. Although it robs a promising argument of all force.

With Lone-Woodwose's complaint about hidden venues I find I must agree. Would it kill organizers to put a cardboard sign or two out on the nearest main streets, with arrows pointing the way? What, they are less capable than people holding yard sales? ( I was awfully grateful, the first couple of years, to the organizers of the LBI for doing this. )
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In some locals, affixing signs to public utility poles or other such structures is illegal. In other places, you need permission to use the public right of way.

In Seattle, signs on light and utility poles are illegal.....AND you've just given directions to the police to find the responsible party.


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Bear in mind that you and MP compete in different spheres; I've have fencing experience in many different places and levels, and I have seen some concentrations of people with decidely interesting interpretations of fencing...
When it comes to competing collegiately, and when it comes to local D&under tournaments (and under)-- people doing bizarre stuff on purpose is fairly commonplace-- in my experience. But maybe they're just decidedly bad, I don't know.

I make no comment on other spheres of competition, not having the experience of "just needing to hit" competitors in other spheres on a regular basis : )
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