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    Senior Member Array DamedEscrime's Avatar
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    How does an ADULT fencing camp sound?

    I have been tossing around a few ideas with some folks here about putting together an adult fencing camp.

    KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ONLY IN THE DREAM STAGE!!!

    How does this sound?
    A long weekend.
    Possibly in summer.
    Possible locations either a college campus or
    a really nice club I know of.

    It might include in addition to fencing:
    Tai Chi
    Stretching clinic
    Armoury Clinic
    Massage Therapy
    Fencing instruction
    A private lesson
    Bouting
    And a tournament

    If this is the kind of camp you would like to attend let me know. Only those who would seriuosly considered should email me at:

    DamedEscrime@fencingmail.com

    Also let me know if there is something else you'd like to see offered.

    I know I would want to go to something like this.
    I'd need 25 -30 adults to make this work.



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    DamedEscrime,

    I would be more than just passively interested in just such a idea. Adult fencers in a three day weekend camp. A Friday night gathering to meet and mix with the people attending, Saturday learning, and a Sunday tournament....
    May I suggest Neevel as an armourer....
    Pardon my musing.
    It really does sound quite wonderful.
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    Senior Member Array DamedEscrime's Avatar
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    exactly what I had in mind Jeeves and Neevel is close by. He would be my first pick.

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    I would definitely be up for this!

    Hope you get enough interested response to move to the planning stage...
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    Any thoughts forming on when, where, how much and expected skill level of the participants?
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    I'd possibly be interested, mostly depending on when it was scheduled and the level of the camp. As it is summer can get a bit cramped with Nationals and Coaches College (for those of us who go).

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    I'd love to come but I'm stuck in good ole England


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    Here's my suggestion:

    Have it in Tampa FL, over the winter holidays time. (If USFA doesn't/can't schedule a winter NAC in a more temperate climate, we can do it ourselves!)

    Make it a week long.

    Arrive Friday. Party all night.
    Saturday: 10:00AM to noon for footwork and calisthenics. Lunch and rest to 2PM. Blade work and all-body work to 5PM. Dinner to 7PM. Discussion on how to fit fencing into your budget :-)

    Sunday: Morning jog. Stretching, calisthenics, and footwork. Lunch. Blade work. Evening: armoring Q & A.

    Monday: morning jog, stretching, calisthenics, footwork. Afternoon: specific tactics, practice bouting with video tape analysis (later that week). Evening: bout committee work.

    Tuesday: morning: jog, stretching, calisthenics, footwork. Afternoon: return to fundamentals (basic bladework, mixed together with footwork). Evening: what the younger whippersnappers are doing nowadays and how to prepare/defend/exploit it using a 40-year old body.

    Wednesday: morning: the usual. Afternoon: Implementing the tactics discussed the night before. Evening: hot-tub and sauna party. (No kids allowed!)

    Thursday: morning: bouting. Afternoon: analysis of the video tapes from Monday. Evening: Refereeing, discussions on right-of-way (especially that).

    Friday: morning and afternoon: big tournament. Evening: party!

    Saturday: morning: final stretching, tips to take home, drills. Afternoon: tinkering lessons to fine tune some things. Evening: more parties.

    Sunday: return home (or stay an extra week!)
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    Just out of curiosity, when you say "adult" what's the cutoff? I'm 22, so I don't know where that puts me. Here we have a lot of 13-16 year olds. I don't know what it's like other places.
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    [quote]Originally posted by Methix:
    <strong>Just out of curiosity, when you say "adult" what's the cutoff? I'm 22, so I don't know where that puts me. Here we have a lot of 13-16 year olds. I don't know what it's like other places.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    All of the camps I've heard of before are for about 13-18 yr. olds, so unless you make the adult camp for something like 19 and up, it would leave people like Methix and myself stranded in the middle... And although I never went to camp when I was in HS, I would absolutely love to do it now... So if anyone knows of any summer training camps/programs for the college age crew, let me know!! And btw, I would definitly include some cross-weapon training in your program...
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    All will depend upon who you manage to line up to instruct, I daresay. ( Well, ok, not all: location, dates and cost will also enter into it. )
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    Personally, if you are of drinking age, in my book you are an adult. There are just certain things only adults can do. I was think of people closer to my age which is vet, but hey, seniors would be good too.
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    DamedEscrime
    As I am in no danger of being carded, this new alcohol related development is a welcome addition.
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    Shamelessly plagiarizing Eric's thoughtful post, here's my take on a camp:

    Have it in Tampa FL, over the winter holidays time. (If USFA doesn't/can't schedule a winter NAC in a more temperate climate, we can do it ourselves!). I'm not much on cruise ships (spent a summer working on one as a kid), but it might be cool to have it on a ship. Logistics would definitely be difficult but the non-fencing SO could be enjoying the cruise while the fencing partner sweats, thereby blinding the SO to the cost of this "adult camp".

    Make it a week long.

    Arrive Friday. Party all night. Post bail.

    Saturday: 10:00AM to noon for Bloody Marys and Advil. Lunch and rest to 2PM. Blade work and all-body work to 5PM. Dinner to 7PM. Discussion on how to fit fencing into your budget :-)

    Sunday: Morning jog (400 yards or less). Stretching, calisthenics, and footwork. Lunch. Blade work. Evening: armoring Q & A. (leave this out. Every time I fence it's armoring Q & A, or, better yet, have optional open bar for armorers to complain about armoring. Have drunken blade rewiring and weapon assembly time trials.)

    Monday: morning jog (500 yards or less: See? we're getting fitter!!), stretching, calisthenics, footwork. Afternoon: specific tactics, practice bouting with video tape analysis (later that week). Evening: bout committee work.

    Tuesday: morning: jog (200 yards or less: recovery day), stretching, calisthenics, footwork. Afternoon: return to fundamentals (basic bladework, mixed together with footwork). Evening: what the younger whippersnappers are doing nowadays and how to prepare/defend/exploit it using a 40-year old body.Add a section on sneaky tricks to humiliate and dishearten our youth.

    Wednesday: morning: the usual. Afternoon: Implementing the tactics discussed the night before. Evening: hot-tub and sauna party. (No kids allowed!)

    Thursday: morning: bouting. Afternoon: analysis of the video tapes from Monday. Evening: Refereeing, discussions on right-of-way (especially that).Isn't this épée camp? What do we do in the meantime?

    Friday: morning and afternoon: big tournament. Evening: party!

    Saturday: morning: Bloody Marys and Advil final stretching, tips to take home, drills. Afternoon: tinkering lessons to fine tune some things. Physical therapy and possible surgery Evening: more parties.

    Sunday: return home (or stay an extra week!)

    Seriously, I think Eric has a good syllabus here. I'd go.

    Eric, get a couple of name coaches and fencers there, and I think you'll have a winner!


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    That sounds like fun, I may be interested in attending. I can only take a week off if it is one of the last two weeks of the month though.

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    I wanna come but according to some people's definition I'm not techincally an adult.... Hm! Sounds like a blast though. Hope you all get it off the ground, even if I can't come!
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    HEY! you guys I am deadly serious about this!!
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    [quote]Originally posted by DamedEscrime:
    <strong>HEY! you guys I am deadly serious about this!!
    *GLARING*</strong><hr></blockquote>


    I am too.

    Particularly about the issues with "selling it" to the SOs. (I'm serious about the Bloody Marys, too).

    You know, if you could package it up with a cruise to Alaska, she'd be dragging me.

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    Hey Dame,
    Dont be too hard on these guys...
    You shoulda seen what went through my mind when I saw 'adult' all in caps in the title!
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    Cyranox11, thats only cause you have spent waaay too long ogling the fencing gals in FHM!
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