09-01-2006, 05:35 PM
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#1 | | Friend of Fencing
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| Refereeing in the Northwestern US?
I'm wondering what the local/regional scene is like for refereeing opportunities? At the moment, I'm only going by limited sources of second-hand information in the matter, so....
Particularly, I would appreciate any information regarding collegiate refereeing. But I'm also very much interested in hearing what the USFA reffing scene is like as well.
Also, what is referee training opportunity like in that part of the country? I'd like to hear about any activities toward that objective.
In-club, local, regional, FIE/USFA, Classical, SCA, whatever and wherever a presence of a referee would be useful... I'd like to hear all about it. 
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09-01-2006, 05:46 PM
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| You might want to send a PM to Peet. He's the man in the Pacific NW.
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09-01-2006, 06:02 PM
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#3 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| You spelled that wrong. Peet is Da Man in the Pacific NW.  | 
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09-02-2006, 11:31 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| Hey there Mauler-
I'm sure your services could be useful up here. We have a number of good refs, but certianly not the density that one finds in certain other areas of the US. Just in the past year or two, the Western WA division has been starting to hire from outside the area ($ is tight). Last year we had Hristo Hristov up for one of the bigger events.
You should talk to dberke. He's the division chair up here and has been driving a lot of the effort to hire rated refs.
There's not much scholastic or collegiate fencing up here. Every few years, some students the U of WA here in Seattle try to get a program together, and getting little suppport from the school, it fails a few years later.
It's pretty much USFA all the way up here, and like I said $ is tight.
That said, Seattle is a beautiful town to visit, and I'm sure we could find you a respectable irish car bomb somewhere!
PM dberke.
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09-03-2006, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by peet There's not much scholastic or collegiate fencing up here. Every few years, some students the U of WA here in Seattle try to get a program together, and getting little suppport from the school, it fails a few years later. | And Reed College. Featuring the "Douglas Williams Scholarship Fencing Tournament". $10,000 in scholarship money split between the top three finishers eligible for financial aid. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Reed College Website Fencing
Instructor: Bill Cochell
Join a long running tradition of fencing at Reed, and be eligible to win a substantial scholarship in the Douglas Williams Fencing Tournament. The class offers lessons in the method and manner of safe swordsmanship. Fencing offers many benefits to any student, exercising both body and mind simultaneously. Basic equipment (foil and protective gear) is provided by the Sports Center. Parrot and/or eyepatch/hook/pegleg not included with tuition and must be provided by student. | Don't forget to bring your own parrot!
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09-03-2006, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt And Reed College. Featuring the "Douglas Williams Scholarship Fencing Tournament". $10,000 in scholarship money split between the top three finishers eligible for financial aid. | Ah, I hadn't heard of that one.
oiuyt may be a better source of collegiate info than me..... | |
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09-03-2006, 11:15 AM
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| Really, oiuyt is just information personified. I sometimes doubt there are things he dosn't know... | |
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09-03-2006, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by telkanuru Really, oiuyt is just information personified. I sometimes doubt there are things he dosn't know... | To be fair, he didn't know about that when he was giving me college advice regarding Reed.
Then again, at the time he was trying to get me to go to UMass-- and failing that, Smith.
So maybe he did know..........
Sneaky bastard.
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09-04-2006, 02:45 AM
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#9 | | Friend of Fencing
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Originally Posted by peet You should talk to dberke. He's the division chair up here and has been driving a lot of the effort to hire rated refs. | Good to hear. Sent him a PM. Quote: |
There's not much scholastic or collegiate fencing up here. Every few years, some students the U of WA here in Seattle try to get a program together, and getting little suppport from the school, it fails a few years later.
| Not so good to hear. What's the surrounding region like? Say, within 300 miles radius? How 'bout the Canadian side? Quote: |
That said, Seattle is a beautiful town to visit, and I'm sure we could find you a respectable irish car bomb somewhere!
| Google seattle "irish car bomb" recommends Kells Irish Restaurant & Pub....
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09-04-2006, 02:46 AM
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#10 | | Friend of Fencing
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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint To be fair, he didn't know about that when he was giving me college advice regarding Reed. | Or perhaps he was protecting you from prospect of 4 yrs in a dry fencing club?
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09-04-2006, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by telkanuru Really, oiuyt is just information personified. I sometimes doubt there are things he dosn't know... | There ARE. For instance, he doesn't know how to lose a bout to me. It's a serious shortcoming and he really should learn how to do it.
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09-04-2006, 04:32 AM
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#12 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by Inquartata There ARE. For instance, he doesn't know how to lose a bout to me. It's a serious shortcoming and he really should learn how to do it. | I suggest you practice him losing a bout to you in club, perhaps several times a day, with an appropriate substitute, and possibly speak with your coach about arranging special teaching on the subject. They're generally called lessons. | |
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09-04-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata There ARE. For instance, he doesn't know how to lose a bout to me. It's a serious shortcoming and he really should learn how to do it. | It's probly a hard subject to grasp, then.  | |
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09-04-2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauler Or perhaps he was protecting you from prospect of 4 yrs in a dry fencing club? | but Reed has its own nuclear reactor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'm sure i could make some sort of nuclear powered sabre setup......
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09-04-2006, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauler | Kells
Fado
Irish Emmigrant
Dubliner
Owl & thistle
Murphy's
to name a few.... | |
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09-04-2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by oiuyt And Reed College. Featuring the "Douglas Williams Scholarship Fencing Tournament". $10,000 in scholarship money split between the top three finishers eligible for financial aid. | Reed has a very small program. At University of Oregon we've tried to get a collegiate circuit together a couple times recently and it has failed miserably. The few programs out here are too far apart. We have given up and decided it's not worth the cost and effort when there are USFA tournaments within driving distance almost every weekend.
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09-04-2006, 07:19 PM
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#17 | | Friend of Fencing
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Originally Posted by DangerMouse We have given up and decided it's not worth the cost and effort when there are USFA tournaments within driving distance almost every weekend. | Do these weekly USFA tournaments tend to hire referees?
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09-04-2006, 07:24 PM
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| Generally not. There are usually enough referees in the Portland area that are associated with Northwest Fencers Club that they don't really hire. The ones in the Seattle area are the ones Peet referenced above. I don't know about sabre tournaments because most of those are hosted in a different venue by Oregon Fencing Alliance.
For classical refereeing and judging, I think they hire on occasion for tournaments at Salem Classical Fencing.
As for referee training, there seems to be one seminar every year or two in Oregon.
Are you planning a visit? A move? If you are going to be in the Seattle area, you may also want to look at what's going on in Vancouver BC. Anywhere south of Seattle, it probably isn't worth the drive up there regularly.
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