08-22-2006, 11:30 PM
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| Topless sabre lessons?
I found a link on a classical fencing site where it told a story of what happened when a fencing master told everyone they could only get their sabre lessons stripped to the waist and thought that would keep the women out of training in the weapon. I thought it was pretty funny so I'll post the link: http://www.classicalfencing.com/articles/sabresedge.php | 
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08-23-2006, 02:40 AM
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| Why do i feel a bit let down when reading this thread.
Thread does not deliver. | |
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08-23-2006, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by downunder Why do i feel a bit let down when reading this thread.
Thread does not deliver. | Expecting pics, were you?  Yea... I was a bit dissapointed as well...  But it was a sweet anecdote nonetheless.
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08-23-2006, 03:19 AM
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| Great story. I see by the end of it that she ditched fencing in favour of becoming a dominatrix.
'I should also mention that, not in three months, but in six months, Cassandra was indeed whipping most of the guys - myself included - like puny dogs.'
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08-23-2006, 03:28 AM
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WE WERE SO MANLY, WE USED TO HIT EACH OTHER WITH SWORDS AND HAVE WELTS ALL OVER OUR BODIES. AFTERWARDS, WE WOULD GO TO THE LOCAL MEAD HALL AND DRINK FROM OUR HORNS IN MERRIMENT. YARRRR!!!!
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08-23-2006, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rcmatthews :: puts on moustache wax::
WE WERE SO MANLY, WE USED TO HIT EACH OTHER WITH SWORDS AND HAVE WELTS ALL OVER OUR BODIES. AFTERWARDS, WE WOULD GO TO THE LOCAL MEAD HALL AND DRINK FROM OUR HORNS IN MERRIMENT. YARRRR!!!! | Wow. When were you in the SCA?
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08-23-2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Hades Great story. I see by the end of it that she ditched fencing in favour of becoming a dominatrix.
'I should also mention that, not in three months, but in six months, Cassandra was indeed whipping most of the guys - myself included - like puny dogs.' |
THAT had me laughing, i was thinking the EXACT same thing...
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08-23-2006, 11:28 AM
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| And here I was hoping for a tie in to Anna Kournakova's sabre lessons...
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08-23-2006, 01:22 PM
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| yeah...
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08-23-2006, 02:02 PM
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08-23-2006, 02:05 PM
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| im not sure if that would of stopped me from getting my lesson.... | |
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08-23-2006, 03:21 PM
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It's about a contingent of Hungarian light cavalry that launched a counterattack against invading German troops - a numerically superior unit that was spear-headed by Panzer tanks. The Wagnerian combination of men and horses screaming, hooves pounding and sabres flashing wickedly was said to have taken the Germans quite by surprise, which I suppose should be no surprise.
| It was probably all the more surprising for Germans, due to the fact that GERMANY AND HUNGARY WERE ALLIES IN WWII! Authors credibility just turned to nothing after I read this bit
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08-23-2006, 03:39 PM
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| And the credibility was so great when it included people getting sabre lessons while stripped to the waist, whether male or female?
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08-23-2006, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by seven6ty yeah... | For those with no imagination and need pictures! | |
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08-23-2006, 05:02 PM
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| Well, it used to be pretty common to take lessons wearing just a T-shirt--stripped to the waist isn't so different. And I've known some coaches who wouldn't pull a cut, just because you weren't going to parry it...
Where's Mauler, to talk about the days when he whupped up on his teammates, wearing just T-shirts and masks? Before he became the Zen referee...
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08-23-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by needle It was probably all the more surprising for Germans, due to the fact that GERMANY AND HUNGARY WERE ALLIES IN WWII! Authors credibility just turned to nothing after I read this bit | I've always heard that story about Poland. Perhaps these was some confusion in the keeping track of parts of Eastern Europe. | |
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08-23-2006, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK I've always heard that story about Poland. Perhaps these was some confusion in the keeping track of parts of Eastern Europe. | But then the whole part about his coach being Hungarian is suspect ... you'd think the guy would know where his coach is from ...
Oh, I know, there's probably another even less believable story about how this Hungarian doctor turned up in Poland and, being a foreigner, actually managed to get an officer comission in Polish army.
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08-23-2006, 06:16 PM
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With Soviet forces approaching, German troops occupied Hungary on March 20 as Hitler thought that the Hungarian leader, Admiral Miklós Horthy, might no longer be a reliable ally.
| Might wanna brush up on your history. 
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08-23-2006, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by needle It was probably all the more surprising for Germans, due to the fact that GERMANY AND HUNGARY WERE ALLIES IN WWII! Authors credibility just turned to nothing after I read this bit | For me it was when he said that modern sabres are like car antennas. | |
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08-23-2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by seven6ty Might wanna brush up on your history. | http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/montgo/montgo15.htm - my history is ok, thanks for your concern. Germany's very brief occupation of Hungary met very little military resistance. In fact, I could not find any mention of armed resistance, except the siege of Budapest, and as far as I know, there were no cavalry units involved. Remember, this is 1943 ... while cavalry units still existed at that time, they were few and rarely used. There were plenty of "cavalry against tanks" stories during invasion into Poland in 1939, but warfare in 1939 and in 1943 was VERY different. Unless you can refer me to a reputable source metioning Hungarian horseback units fighting against German troops, the story does not have that ring of truth, IMHO. Quote: |
Originally Posted by ADMIRAL MIKLÓS HORTHY: MEMOIRS In 1943, we had created a highly trained elite cavalry corps, equipped with armoured vehicles and motorized heavy artillery. I had considered it vital to keep these reliable troops in Hungary, and I had repeatedly refused German requests to send them to the Eastern front. | That's what cavalry divisions looked like in 1943 - armoured vehicles and motorized heavy artillery. See any mention of horses?
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