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Mr Epee · 08-19-2006, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Phaeton

He is leading a club in an activity that does not in the eyes of the state exist as an athletic sport for credit, which therefore needs NO certification for coaching.

And schools are SO much more lenient when dealing with UNSANCTIONED activities?

And WTF with the schools and weapons song and dance... I've been in tons of schools with fencing equipment... it's very very simple

It's usually goes like this.

School Rep: Who are you?
MrE: I'm MrE.
School Rep: Cool are you the fencing guys?
MrE: Yep
School Rep: Wow that's so awesome. We're so glad you're here. Is that your equipment?
MrE: Yep
School Rep: Is there anything we can do to help?
MrE: Nope.

Nothing to it... seriously.

KD5MDK · 08-19-2006, 02:14 AM

FYI, the OP is almost certainly female. The German sort of gives it away.

die Fechterin, when Mr. Epee says "AD", he's meaning the school Athletic Director, who is usually also the coach of a sport and often (at least in Texas) a social studies teacher.

die Fechterin · 08-19-2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK

FYI, the OP is almost certainly female. The German sort of gives it away.

Thank you for recognizing that my name implies me being a woman! (Not everyone speaks German. Well noted. Do not be offended if you were unaware.)

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK

die Fechterin, when Mr. Epee says "AD", he's meaning the school Athletic Director, who is usually also the coach of a sport and often (at least in Texas) a social studies teacher.

Funny you should mention being a SS teacher, because that's what I'm going to college for. Well, SS and English... for middle schoolers.

die Fechterin · 08-19-2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Epee

And WTF with the schools and weapons song and dance... I've been in tons of schools with fencing equipment... it's very very simple

It's usually goes like this.

School Rep: Who are you?
MrE: I'm MrE.
School Rep: Cool are you the fencing guys?
MrE: Yep
School Rep: Wow that's so awesome. We're so glad you're here. Is that your equipment?
MrE: Yep
School Rep: Is there anything we can do to help?
MrE: Nope.

Nothing to it... seriously.

Ha! I wish! When I was in HS I did a scene from the Princess Bride for theatre with a fellow fencer and it was a pain in the arse to get two practice foils into the school. Twas so much fun having the rent-a-cop character following us around while we had our blades. I also did a fencing demo w/ the Assistant Director of my club and had to get permission from just about every step of the Administration ladder. That was also a pain.

That is one, but not the main, reason why the practices will be help off campus.

Mr Epee · 08-19-2006, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by die Fechterin

I also did a fencing demo w/ the Assistant Director of my club and had to get permission from just about every step of the Administration ladder.

If you missed it, the first point in my conversation was "yes, I'm Mr Epee"...

This approach may not work for a 19 y.o. recent graduate of a specific HS.

I also work with HS and University AD's on a daily basis... this also is a trust issue.
RE: Common Sense

People who use words like "arse" and "twas" may not carry the most weight with institutional decision makers. When you do things like this you are re-enforcing exactly the image that removed fencing as a HS sport in the first place.

die Fechterin · 08-19-2006, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Epee

If you missed it, the first point in my conversation was "yes, I'm Mr Epee"...

Typing this with as much respect as possible for a person I do not know...
I'm failing to see just how "yes, I'm Mr. Epee" makes a point at the beginning of the conversation? Kindly explain if you wish.

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Originally Posted by Mr Epee

This approach may not work for a 19 y.o. recent graduate of a specific HS.

True. That is why the Director and Assistant Director of my club are coming to my aid. Which I am positive I must have mention several times.

I also work with HS and University AD's on a daily basis... this also is a trust issue.
RE: Common Sense

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Originally Posted by Mr Epee

People who use words like "arse" and "twas" may not carry the most weight with institutional decision makers. When you do things like this you are re-enforcing exactly the image that removed fencing as a HS sport in the first place.

First of all, "arse" and "twas" are engraved into my mind from my many years of theatre. Those closest to me know that I often go off on whimsical tangents when in a casual atmosphere. An example being a blog dedicated to bringing fencers from all over together. At least, I would hope it is casual.

Secondly, I am able to distinguish between casual conversation and business. When trying to convince anyone that allowing, from an administrator's point of view, "hormonally imbalanced youth to use potentially deadly sports equipment" is a good idea, I tend to speak differently. Despite what your former post implies, not all HSs are going to be so...perky about the idea of someone approaching potentially thousands of students and encouraging some of them to pick up a sword and try to "impale" each other.

Phaeton · 08-19-2006, 04:32 AM

It really depends where you are. When you are in a district that has confiscated weaponry and has a school shooting are two things are harder. I know plenty of people who have tried successfully and unsuccessfully to get blades on campus and it really depends on the make and leniency of the school board. I know plenty of people with experiences different from yours, and it really depends on the school district. If you're not going to have a problem, it'll be easy, on the other hand if you do, well, it's a lot harder.

Yes you're Mr. Epee. That may have some weight; you have a well known program possibly. For a district in which this may be rather new, that doesn't work.

The fact it is unsanctioned mean there isn't any governing process for the creation of coaches. I'm pretty sure the OHSAA does not have a qualification for fencing coaches for that express purpose. Therefore, I doubt that she'll need to prove credential in the state. That's what I was implying.

It all depends, I was offering from my experience and that song and dance is something I slaved over with a lawyer and a school district. It wasn't easy at all, but thank G-d some people owe me some favors.

(Edited for mispelling and mistake with gender)

die Fechterin · 08-19-2006, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Phaeton

... I doubt that he'll need to prove credentia in the state. That's what I was implying.

Thank you, Phaeton, for your understanding of the situation, but respectively, I am a woman.

Phaeton · 08-19-2006, 04:47 AM

Which I had read before the post, but conveniently forgot while writing it. I make the general assumption when I post, and usualy when I write in general if the gender is nondisclosed, or I forget that it has been stated explicity the individual is a man.

I apologize.

I've managed once again to make a complete ass of myself.

die Fechterin · 08-19-2006, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Phaeton

I apologize.

I've managed once again to make a complete ass of myself.

Not a problem and apology accepted. I'll give you a helpful tip with my name, "die Fechterin". It's German. It means "the (female) fencer". Anything in German that has the article "die" is going to be feminine. Subjects, as far as I know, ending in "in" also implies the person is female. Don't take this as being pushy. Just trying to help you remember.