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| a personal note of thanks. the board has been very productive, i have noticed that i tend to get very pissed off as soon as someone dissagrees, therefore, with the new insight in mind, i will be saying goodbye for now, and probably for a while anyway. thank you again. <img src="graemlins/fett.gif" border="0" alt="[The Fett]" /> |
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05-04-2002, 08:20 PM
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| If this has given you new insight...why not stick around? |
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05-05-2002, 01:48 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by schlager7:
<strong>If this has given you new insight...why not stick around?</strong><hr></blockquote>
schlager7, your profile suggests you fence all 3 weapons.
What has saber got to do with theater in your opinion (more than the others)?
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05-05-2002, 08:31 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by reptile:
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schlager7, your profile suggests you fence all 3 weapons.
What has saber got to do with theater in your opinion (more than the others)?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are you kidding? Just watch sabre guys try and convince the director they THEIR light's the one to go with...Oscar caliber acting! |
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05-05-2002, 09:26 PM
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| Actually, I first heard the phrase from Richard Alvarez, who later told me he got it years ago from Al Peters, when both were at the old Salle Sebastiani in Houston.
Look at sabre, especially classical sabre. It is very theatrical and, indeed, of the three modern weapons comes closest to the movement paradigms of renaissance fencing styles.
More to the point, I think the signature line speaks to the nature of each weapon. |
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05-06-2002, 01:09 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by schlager7:
<strong>Actually, I first heard the phrase from Richard Alvarez, who later told me he got it years ago from Al Peters, when both were at the old Salle Sebastiani in Houston.
Look at sabre, especially classical sabre. It is very theatrical and, indeed, of the three modern weapons comes closest to the movement paradigms of renaissance fencing styles.
More to the point, I think the signature line speaks to the nature of each weapon.</strong><hr></blockquote>
At first i understood the your signature line like Purple fencer did - so to say "sabre is a farce"...
But i must have really got it wrong. Can you agree with Purple fencers interpredation?
so long
reptile
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05-06-2002, 01:34 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by reptile:
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At first i understood the your signature line like Purple fencer did - so to say "sabre is a farce"...
But i must have really got it wrong. Can you agree with Purple fencers interpredation?
so long
reptile</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, i DID get the gist of his signature -- very poetic. I was just messin' with your head!  |
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| thank you, you see zelda, you really are a friend, amazingly, but i will keep you out of my stories as requested from now on, i thought it was sorta cute though, i was aiming for a little light hearted sit-com thing, with zelda, mango, peach, the pinstrips, the newbie with the iron, et al, well, maybe we'll get to it as things simmer down in the fantasy files. bye again! |
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05-07-2002, 06:07 AM
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| schlager7's signature is a very fascinating look into the nature of each fencing weapon. I like it very much!
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| your right d;art, it is both interesting and i believe, if i am right watson, designed to stimulate conversation! |
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05-09-2002, 10:18 PM
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| [quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>schlager7's signature is a very fascinating look into the nature of each fencing weapon. I like it very much!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Says D'Artagnan, wielding his truth (and art too, aren't you?) 
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| [quote]Originally posted by schlager7:
<strong>Actually, I first heard the phrase from Richard Alvarez, who later told me he got it years ago from Al Peters, when both were at the old Salle Sebastiani in Houston.
Look at sabre, especially classical sabre. It is very theatrical and, indeed, of the three modern weapons comes closest to the movement paradigms of renaissance fencing styles.
More to the point, I think the signature line speaks to the nature of each weapon.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I’ve always felt that sabre (dueling sabre, Radaelli sabre, sciabola) owed a lot to late rapier/stricia in terms of technique. Certainly far more similarity than it has with any cavalry weapon.
It has to do with the molinet – a circular motion that combines offense and defense. You see it in most renaissance weapon forms – longsword, sidesword, and rapier as well as in the later dueling sabre.
Since the earlier (pre-Hungarian) styles like the French, Italian and Spanish sabre styles used molinets from the elbow instead of the wrist or fingers, they do tend to translate well to the stage.
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