2006-2007 USFA Event Schedule

[Craig]

2006-2007 USFA Dates, Event Locations & Deadlines

October 6-9, 2006 (Fri-Mon) Division II/Division III/Cadet
Memphis, TNDeadline for Entries at Regular Fees: September 8, 2006
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: September 9 - 22, 2006
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: September 22, 2006
*Deadline for Classification Changes: September 22, 2006



November 10-13, 2006 (Fri-Mon) Junior/Cadet/Youth 14
Albuquerque, NM
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: October 13, 2006
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: October 14 - 27, 2006
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: October 27, 2006
*Deadline for Classification Changes: October 27, 2006

December 8-10, 2006 (Fri-Sun) Division I/Veteran
Richmond, VA
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: November 10, 2006
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: November 11 - 24, 2006
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: November 24, 2006
*Deadline for Classification Changes: November 24, 2006

January 12-15, 2007 (Fri-Mon) Division I/Junior
Columbus, OH
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: December 15, 2006
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: December 16 - 29, 2006
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: December 29, 2006
*Deadline for Classification Changes: December 29, 2006

February 16-19, 2007 (Fri-Mon) Junior Olympic Championships
Denver, CO
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: January 12, 2007
Deadline for Division Qualifying Forms: January 12, 2007
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: January 13 - 26, 2007
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: January 26, 2007
*Deadline for Classification Changes: January 26, 2007

March 9-12, 2007 (Fri-Mon) Division II/III/Veteran
Atlanta, GA
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: February 9, 2007
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: February 10 - 23, 2007
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: February 23, 2007
*Deadline for Classification Changes: February 23, 2007

April 20-23, 2007 (Fri-Mon) Division I/Youth 14/12/10
Tucson, AZ
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: March 23, 2007
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: March 24 - April 6, 2007
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: April 6, 2007
*Deadline for Classification Changes: April 6, 2007

June 29-July 8, 2007 (Fri-Sun) Division I National Championships
Miami, FL

Summer National ChampionshipsDeadline for Division Qualifying Forms: May 4, 2007
Deadline for Section Qualifying Forms: May 11, 2007
Deadline for Entries at Regular Fees: May 18, 2007
Late Entry Period at Triple Fees: May 19 - June 1, 2007
Final Deadline for Entries at Triple Fees: June 1, 2007
*Deadline for Classification Changes: June 1, 2007

[telkanuru]

Anything on venue locations, esp. for the upcoming ones?

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

Or the dates of the specific events.....

[teacup]

Or the dates of the specific events.....

Yes, please before the fares to Memphis rise. They are already above their lows of a couple of weeks ago.

[dberke]

Yes, please before the fares to Memphis rise. They are already above their lows of a couple of weeks ago.

Not sure if this applies to you, but flights to Little Rock, AR are a LOT cheaper. It was about $450 to Memphis from here in Seattle, while only about $250 to Little Rock. Little Rock is about 2 hours west, so if you're not adverse to renting a car and driving a bit, it might be a cheaper route, especially if you planned on renting a car in Memphis anyway.

Dan

[Bayou Bum]

Or the dates of the specific events.....

I see you are still in search of a date ... lol

Seriously,
Event dates would be nice. If you can't afford to go the entire event, you can't make any plans without knowing the schedule.

[campb1pr]

also posted in Venue thread...

http://va-usfa.org/etc/2006Venue-Hotel-info.pdf

[larkmaj]

Or the dates of the specific events.....

This question was asked during the USFA meeting at this last session's coaches college. The answer was basically that the system to set up the specific schedule of events for a particular tournament is a whole bunch of beauracratic jargon. What I got from it is it is up to the organizers of that particular tournamnet and not the USFA and they don't make a decision until closer to the tournament when they have a better idea of how many for each event are coming.

[RANT]
I, as likely many others, think this is a bad system for the reason already pointed out, however it doesn't seem like something likely to change looking at they way the USFA has been looking lately and what seems to be their goal right now.

Fortunately part of that goal is online registration and the like. However the president said the "big picture" or goal is to modify the current rating system (sounds like a good idea) to a national individual rating system posted online and updated weekly (eg I'm #2486 in the nation for epee this week) while they are prone to ignore (essentially) the suggestion or complaint that membership should last a year to the month rather than expire on July 31st which doesn't seem to be a very hard thing to do.
[/RANT]

But I digress, short answer, not until closer to the tounrament.

If anybody would like to discuss things contained in the rant please start a new thread and I would be happy to contribute.

[teacup]

This question was asked during the USFA meeting at this last session's coaches college. The answer was basically that the system to set up the specific schedule of events for a particular tournament is a whole bunch of beauracratic jargon. What I got from it is it is up to the organizers of that particular tournamnet and not the USFA and they don't make a decision until closer to the tournament when they have a better idea of how many for each event are coming.

Isn't this a "catch 22"? Fencers won't sign up until the event dates are posted and the organizers don't want to post the event dates until fencers sign up.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

It is just awfully inconvenient. People need to plan things out, like:

• Getting time off from work.
• Booking a room at a hotel.
• Booking plane tickets.

This costs us, the fencers (or the parents of the fencers), extra money. In an already expensive and inconvenient sport, adding on to that expense and inconvience is just not needed.

IT IS ABSOLUTELY UNNACCEPTABLE.

[larkmaj]

Isn't this a "catch 22"? Fencers won't sign up until the event dates are posted and the organizers don't want to post the event dates until fencers sign up.

I'm not completely sure what she meant but that was how I interpreted it, others who were there may have understood it differently. If anybody else thinks I was wrong then please explain.

[oiuyt]

This question was asked during the USFA meeting at this last session's coaches college. The answer was basically that the system to set up the specific schedule of events for a particular tournament is a whole bunch of beauracratic jargon. What I got from it is it is up to the organizers of that particular tournamnet and not the USFA and they don't make a decision until closer to the tournament when they have a better idea of how many for each event are coming.

This is just wrong.

The USFA (between the Tournament Committee and the National Office) runs the NACs. The USFA IS (are?) "the organizers". The final event times are not announced until after the registration date, but the days of the events are pre-announced. There's no reason those can't be announced for the entire season in advance. For the past couple of seasons this pre-announcement has also included designating which events will have a close of registration prior to 10am (and, by inference, which will not).

Fortunately part of that goal is online registration and the like. However the president said the "big picture" or goal is to modify the current rating system (sounds like a good idea) to a national individual rating system posted online and updated weekly (eg I'm #2486 in the nation for epee this week) while they are prone to ignore (essentially) the suggestion or complaint that membership should last a year to the month rather than expire on July 31st which doesn't seem to be a very hard thing to do.

When did she mention a goal of moving to an overall ranking system? Could you provide any additional details about said announcement? Such a system was featured in one of the Tournament Task Force proposals, but I haven't heard any other discussion on the topic recently.

-B

[larkmaj]

This is just wrong.

That was just how I understood what she told us, I may be wrong.

When did she mention a goal of moving to an overall ranking system? Could you provide any additional details about said announcement? Such a system was featured in one of the Tournament Task Force proposals, but I haven't heard any other discussion on the topic recently.

The ranking system was mentioned by the president and stated it as a "big picture" goal. I was mainly using it to illustrate how I feel that they are ignoring smaller problems that get many complaints to try and do things that seem more inconceivable.

[bichetteepee]

THS has the entire fencing season online for hotel reservations. Of course, we don't know which events are on what days yet, but it gives us an idea of price and hotel locations.

http://www.thsweb.com/index_sport.cfm?sportname=fencing

Karen Bichette

Fencer: Renee Bichette
Age: 11
Club: Florida Musketeers
Coach: Aleksandr Gromov

[CvilleFencer]

Posted on my division forum from a fairly knowledgable sourece:

NAC A (Memphis) Prelim Schedule:

Friday, Oct 6:
Cadet M. Epée
Division III M. Foil
Division II M. Sabre
Division II W. Epée

Saturday, Oct 7
Division III M. Epée
Cadet M. Sabre
Cadet W. Epée
Division II W. Foil
Division III W. Sabre

Sunday, Oct 8
Division II M. Epée
Cadet M. Foil
Division III M. Sabre
Division III W. Foil
Cadet W. Sabre

Monday, Oct 9
Division II M. Foil
Division III W. Epée
Cadet W. Foil
Division II W. Sabre

[Ordway]

Posted on my division forum from a fairly knowledgable sourece:

NAC A (Memphis) Prelim Schedule:

Monday, Oct 9
Division II W. Sabre

Cville, thanks for the preliminary info. I won't make plane reservations yet based on that, but knowing I'll have to miss Monday and probably Tuesday as well (arghhhhh!!) ahead of time is super important for me - I can build the "no class" days into my syllabus ahead of time.

[sleepyweasle]

Posted on my division forum from a fairly knowledgable sourece:

NAC A (Memphis) Prelim Schedule:

Sunday, Oct 8
Division II M. Epée
Cadet M. Foil
Division III M. Sabre
Division III W. Foil
Cadet W. Sabre

If this is true that would be great! At least 1 NAC where my kid would NOT have to miss school! How sure are you about this!

[CvilleFencer]

How sure are you about this!

Well, I am never more than 70% sure until the USFA posts it. Then I get up to about 90% that the schedule will reflect reality. Since I would like to start making plans, I will try to contact them tomorrow and see if I can get anyone to confirm the schedule.

[Phorid]

I received from US Fencing the schedule as listed in the above post. However, the schedule I received had certain events listed with the # sign and the statement: "The Board of Directors has instructed us to indicate those competitions for which the close of registration is PROJECTED to be prior to 10 am: those competitions are indicated by a pound sign (#) on the schedule below." (Emphasis in original.)


Friday, Oct 6:
Cadet# M. Epée
Division III# M. Foil
Division II M. Sabre
Division II W. Epée

Saturday, Oct 7
Division III M. Epée
Cadet# M. Sabre
Cadet# W. Epée
Division II# W. Foil
Division III W. Sabre

Sunday, Oct 8
Division II M. Epée
Cadet# M. Foil
Division III M. Sabre
Division III# W. Foil
Cadet# W. Sabre

Monday, Oct 9
Division II# M. Foil
Division III W. Epée
Cadet# W. Foil
Division II# W. Sabre

[CvilleFencer]

I confirmed it with Nancy this morning, so it is solid enough to start making plans. More than a month in advance! WooHooo!