Scholarships in NCAAs: Where?

[Nivek67]

I will be going into my senior year of highschool in about a month and naturally i've been looking at colleges. I'm looking into fencing in NCAAs and was wondering which schools offer partial or full scholarships. When using the college search on collegeboard.com and viewing profiles of fencing schools, it seemed to be that only Notre Dame and Ohio State had "scholarship fencing" listed. If anyone knows otherwise I would appreciate the info.
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Thanks in advance for the help,
Kevin (in case you couldn't reverse the user name)

[RITFencing]

Rutgers did offer them, but now their team is being shut down (and it's a damn shame, too.) You might want to have a look at Princeton and Penn State as well, I believe that both offer fencing scholarships.

[fencerbill]

Notre Dame, St Johns. Air Force effectively.

The schools like the Ivies say they have no athletic scholarships. But they do make it possible for athletes to attend and participate in their sport.

[RITFencing]

The Air Force Academy is free anyway if you get in, right? Fencing could certainly make it easier, if that's the route you want to take.

[darius]

Penn State.
Northwestern, Temple (women only).

darius

[prototoast]

Ivy schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships, however they all are pretty good with need based aid if you don't have a lot of money.

[AndrewH]

Need we mention that if you have to ask where, you won't be getting one?

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Need we mention that if you have to ask where, you won't be getting one?

It's a point we should probably make in every post like this---

Fencing scholarships are few and far between--- Coaches offer them to the people they most want, the people they've seen/scouted/recruited, AND think that they can get.

Fencing can make it easier for you to get into a school, if you have a working relationship with the coach and/or you're of a higher caliber fencer than they usually start with AND the coach has a relationship with admissions. Fencing looks cool on applications, so even if the coach doesn't know you exist, it can help you get in.

Obviously, the better the application looks, the better the school you can get into, and the better the school, the more likly they are to have a HUGE endowment, and thus you have a better shot at a good financial aid package.

So, play the game, talk to coaches, highlight your fencing career..... But don't expect to pay for college with fencing.


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ALSO--- Search for some of the (many) threads on how to PICK a college team-- not all college teams are right for all people. NCAA programs aren't right for everyone, etc etc.... and there are a lot of threads dedicated to that topic.

[RITFencing]

Need we mention that if you have to ask where, you won't be getting one?

You never know; Cody Mattern didn't even know about the World Cup Circuit until he qualified for it (Funny story if you get the chance to ask him.)

To be fair, Nivek, what sorts of results have you gotten? You'd probably want a healthy amount of Junior points, maybe some Senior, and FIE (either Junior or Senior) if possible to get those scholarships.

If you're doign this because you're the varsity starter on your high school team, then I'm sorry, man, but you're SOL for a fencing scholarship.

[fixxmyweapon]

it doesn't matter. he's comming to carolina

[little_old_me]

Forget NCAA, Club teams have more fun. And we get USACFC!!!

[Nivek67]

Just for clarification; I was mostly curious as I had thought they were not as scarce as they sound. Not expecting that I would be able to attain one. (and maybe a little hopefull for better results to happen this up coming season )

As for results, just for the record ; I've only gotten points in cadet sabre, the best of which was ninth place, 3rd in div 3 a year ago, and I've only fenced two div1 NACs the second of which i got to second pools. No luck in junior so far, (but I have points now in junior epee?)

[fencerbill]

Just for clarification; I was mostly curious as I had thought they were not as scarce as they sound. Not expecting that I would be able to attain one. (and maybe a little hopefull for better results to happen this up coming season )

As for results, just for the record ; I've only gotten points in cadet sabre, the best of which was ninth place, 3rd in div 3 a year ago, and I've only fenced two div1 NACs the second of which i got to second pools. No luck in junior so far, (but I have points now in junior epee?)

It sounds like you should talk to coaches. There are probably many coaches who would put in a good word with Admissions for you. But you would probably not be the one they would push hardest for.

Remember a coach with a coed team needs to add about 8 fencers a year.

[prototoast]

It sounds like you should talk to coaches. There are probably many coaches who would put in a good word with Admissions for you. But you would probably not be the one they would push hardest for.

Are we talking money or admissions here. Though scholarships are few and far between (though it's still easier to get a fencing scholarship than a basketball scholarship), almost all NCAA programs recruit, but that doesn't help him if he's looking for money.

[keropie]

Are we talking money or admissions here. Though scholarships are few and far between (though it's still easier to get a fencing scholarship than a basketball scholarship), almost all NCAA programs recruit, but that doesn't help him if he's looking for money.

A) I doubt it's much easier to get a fencing scholarship than a basketball scholarship. BBall scholarships are just much more physically and self selecting (you already know if you have a shot there). I expect that for whichever gender there are less than 50 full scholarships in the nation for fencing. Probably more like 24. Assuming even distribution among classes, we're looking at 6 available for freshman. Again assuming even distribution among weapons (by no means necessitated), we're looking at like 2 available for your gender and weapon. Or maybe as many as 6. Regardless, your best bet at a scholarship involves (shockingly enough) actualy scholarship, i.e., good grades and such.

B) Depending on what you mean by 'recruit,' yeah, most teams recruit. But not necessarily in terms of 'we have an admissions space for you, just sign here and you're in.' I know UNC has no spots like that. It's more of a 'we'd love to have you... hope you can get in from out of state, but realistically, if you can, you're probably on your way to the Ivy Leagues or something... keep in touch, though!'

[prototoast]

A) I doubt it's much easier to get a fencing scholarship than a basketball scholarship. BBall scholarships are just much more physically and self selecting (you already know if you have a shot there). I expect that for whichever gender there are less than 50 full scholarships in the nation for fencing. Probably more like 24. Assuming even distribution among classes, we're looking at 6 available for freshman. Again assuming even distribution among weapons (by no means necessitated), we're looking at like 2 available for your gender and weapon. Or maybe as many as 6. Regardless, your best bet at a scholarship involves (shockingly enough) actualy scholarship, i.e., good grades and such.

B) Depending on what you mean by 'recruit,' yeah, most teams recruit. But not necessarily in terms of 'we have an admissions space for you, just sign here and you're in.' I know UNC has no spots like that. It's more of a 'we'd love to have you... hope you can get in from out of state, but realistically, if you can, you're probably on your way to the Ivy Leagues or sohttp://www.fencing.net/forums/forum25.html
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A) is only due to the fact the number of basketball players is several orders of magnitude greater than the number of fencers, and basketball rosters are fairly small. I don't actually know this, just guesswork.

B) When I say recruit, I mean spots where you can sign on to go to the school and the coach has genuine pull with the admissions office. You may not, but lots of schools do.

[bigdawg2121]

A) is only due to the fact the number of basketball players is several orders of magnitude greater than the number of fencers, and basketball rosters are fairly small. I don't actually know this, just guesswork.

B) When I say recruit, I mean spots where you can sign on to go to the school and the coach has genuine pull with the admissions office. You may not, but lots of schools do.

Pretty much every school has say in who gets in and who doesn't. Some to varying degrees and most depending on who you are and how much they care. Although if you are who I think you are Kevin you're own personal best situation will probably be coming to Carolina like Fixxy said and spending a year as the 4th or 5th man on the MS squad there.

[AndrewH]

Pretty much every school has say in who gets in and who doesn't. Some to varying degrees and most depending on who you are and how much they care. Although if you are who I think you are Kevin you're own personal best situation will probably be coming to Carolina like Fixxy said and spending a year as the 4th or 5th man on the MS squad there.

As an aside, UNC may also be getting refugees from Rutgers next year (07-08). One possible in MS, maybe 2.

[fixxmyweapon]

we don't really want anyone from there. we have enough jersey people. :P

[Soberin]

Since as a rule, fencers are WAY smarter than other athletes, you better have the grades. There is always someone as good as you in the rankings, but with better grades. Also of course, fencing is not a revenue sport for the the university.