You Know You're a Fencer-Part 2

[Zelda]

You know you are a fencer when at a budget meeting someone has budgeted 150 pounds for swords for "Much Ado about nothing" and without even THINKING you say "You can get them cheaper then that!"

[Shadow Fencer]

.....when you return home from your first NAC and tell your significant other that instead of the diamond anniversary ring, that you want all FIE gear instead! Let's say I've encountered opponents who are tougher and larger than I've ever encountered before!!!

[Sildar]

Maybe this should go under another thread, like "You know you're a proud coach when..." but I'm too lazy to start it. A little while back one of my students told me she was having trouble deciding which fencing class to take because there was another class she really wanted to take during the same time slot, but when I asked if she was going to take a semester off she said "I can't imagine NOT fencing!"
Also, another student of mine was asking about the new Lexan masks, and when I was describing the supposed advantages, such as clearer vision, she thoughtfully replied, "actually, I prefer having my vision kind of blurry from the mesh." I don't know if I've ever been more proud.

[shyHeidi]

but ... but ... if you get too close to the mesh then your eyes start to focus 2 cm away from your face, instead of on the opponent's weapon...

>>having mask issues<<

[Sildar]

Eventually you learn not focus on the mesh ever.
However, if you are getting that close to it, maybe you should add a little padding to the part of the mask that contacts your forehead; get one of the senior fencers to help you adjust it, because it shouldn't be rolling around that much!

[shyHeidi]

There isn't a part that goes against my forehead though. I dunno, my mask is really weird. I don't have a sweat band or anything and it pretty much flops around all over the place. It's held in place a little bit by my glasses, but...
It's a small and I swear it's too big for my head though. I didn't know I had such a small head...
Ugh.

[D'Artagnan1673]

[quote]Originally posted by Swordsman:
<strong>One of my (female) friends tried to poke me in the side this morning, roughly low seven (I'm ticklish). Without thinking, I made a perfect parry to sixth with my hand, then brought it back down and riposted to her eight, poking her back and making her squeal. Even had my hand pronated correctly!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I do that all the time with my girlfriend!

[Methix]

[quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>

I do that all the time with my girlfriend!</strong><hr></blockquote>

My girlfriend and I are really bad. Since we're both fencers we can go through whole sequences of tickle-pokey bouting. We even try to claim right-of-way sometimes.

[GlamdringSaber]

Du... Du hast... Du hast mich...
<img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" />

[Purple Fencer]

[quote]Originally posted by GlamdringSaber:
<strong>Du... Du hast... Du hast mich...
<img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

OK, please translate that! I know it's from a German metal band, Ramstein...one of the local morning radio shows (Mark & Brian, KLOS, Los Angeles) has the openening of that for bumper music coming out of commercial every so often.

[Zelda]

you...you have....you have me~! <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" />

[Purple Fencer]

[quote]Originally posted by Zelda:
<strong>you...you have....you have me~! <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Dankeshoen.

That, and whatever I learned off "Hogan's Heroes" is the extent of my German...generally "ja," "nein," and "Jawol, mein commandant."

[reptile]

[quote]Originally posted by Zelda:
<strong>you...you have....you have me~! <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> <img src="graemlins/freak4.gif" border="0" alt="[Freak2]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually its a pun.
It can mean "you - you hate - you hate me"
spelled "hasst"
as well as
"you - you have - you have me" spelled "hast".
I am not a fan of Ramstein, neither am i German,
but i have met Americans who got the pun!

Reptile

[D'Artagnan1673]

I own Rammstein, Sensucht. One of the bonus tracks on the CD is Du Hast in English. It is you hate and not you have.

I like some of Rammstein's stuff, mostly Sensucht, Engel and their version of Depeche Mode's Stripped.

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[D'Artagnan1673]

[quote]Originally posted by Catlady:
<strong>Saebel Fechter,
First another German speaker on the board, all right!

Second, LOL at the last comment. I was doing that while watching the commericals for Man in the Iron Mask. There's a point where one fencer turns his back on his opponent to do some kind of spinning attack, and I announced how stupid that would be as, if I were the opponent I would have just stabbed him in the back.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Which version was it that you were watching? I think you are referring to the Tim Burton version right? Other than the poor acting and silly costumes that version felt something like the book. Except for the guy that played the manager in Major League playing the governer of the Bastille with that hilarious French Accent. Yeah, that spinning move was pretty stupid. At least the ending was good though. Closer to the book than any other version I've seen.

Never mind, I just reread your post, you said you only saw the commercial to the movie

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[reptile]

[quote]Originally posted by D'Artagnan1673:
<strong>I own Rammstein, Sensucht. One of the bonus tracks on the CD is Du Hast in English. It is you hate and not you have.

I like some of Rammstein's stuff, mostly Sensucht, Engel and their version of Depeche Mode's Stripped.

[ 03-24-2002: Message edited by: D'Artagnan1673 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

What could they do? They had to decide wether to say(or grunt) have OR hate. This just doesn't work so well in English. Here are the original lyrics: (hast means have)

Du
du hast
du hast mich
du hast mich gefragt
du hast mich gefragt, und ich hab nichts gesagt

Willst du bis der Tod euch scheidet
treu ihr sein für alle Tage

Nein....

<a href="http://www.herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/sehnsucht#5" target="_blank">http://www.herzeleid.com/en/lyrics/sehnsucht#5</a>

[D'Artagnan1673]

Hast mean have.... opps! My bad.

[shyHeidi]

Ehrm... "You know you're a fencer when you listen to Rammstein"???

<img src="confused.gif" border="0">

[Catlady]

I don't know much about Rammstein, although a guy I used to fence with absolutely loved them. Anyway, I do speak German--not as well as I'd like unfortunately-- and you're right, hast=have, but hasst(with an esszet, which looks a bit like the Greek letter Beta, in place of the two "s"s)=hate. They sound similar though.

I'm upset I missed the pun <img src="graemlins/dunce.gif" border="0" alt="[Dunce]" /> .


Looking at the lyrics listed here though they'd have to go with have. If I'm translating correctly, the lyrics are

"You
You have,
You have asked
You have asked me
You have asked me, and I didn't say anything

Will you be true for all the days
until death divides us

No. . ."

That's the really rough, emphasis on rough, translation. I didn't try to make it poetic or anything, I'm not sure I could either although I've tried my hand at translation before. I'm sure it was different in the English version after they made it less awkward and made it match the music. Anyway that's the gist of the lyrics that were posted.

Okay, I'm done now, really.

[D'Artagnan1673]

People who fence listen to Rammstein, but not all people who listen to Rammstein fence.