07-18-2006, 01:15 AM
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I'm thinking of buying a new lame. (Old lame is dying...) I've been looking at a couple of different ones. I want something fairly durable. The two I've been looking at are the Leon Paul light weight, or possibly this: http://shop.fencing.net/product_p/fwf71001.htm Any comments on the latter on? I've never encountered this brand before, but I have seen the Leon Paul ones. Has anyone here used the fence with fun lame?
Thanks!
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07-18-2006, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Point_Left I'm thinking of buying a new lame. (Old lame is dying...) I've been looking at a couple of different ones. I want something fairly durable. The two I've been looking at are the Leon Paul light weight, or possibly this: http://shop.fencing.net/product_p/fwf71001.htm Any comments on the latter on? I've never encountered this brand before, but I have seen the Leon Paul ones. Has anyone here used the fence with fun lame?
Thanks! | I have a couple of the FWF lames out for testing. The general feedback is that they are very light and breathable but there hasn't been enough fencing in them to determine durability yet.
The Leon Paul superlight lame has proven to be very durable, and you can't go wrong with it.
In a couple of months I'll have some better feedback for you, but for now the Leon Paul is the more proven/tested product.
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07-18-2006, 08:32 AM
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#3 | | Scavenger
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| I just bought the Leon Paul superlight. Not cheap, but from what people who have it tell me it is worth it.
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07-18-2006, 02:47 PM
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| My kid just replaced her old lame (ulhman) with the LP superlight lame at Summer Nats and LOVES it. She finds it MUCH easier to move in and feels that that alone has helped her fencing. | |
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07-18-2006, 07:06 PM
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#5 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| You might consider the Estoc lame from Swordmasters. It's pretty pricey too, but they're absolute tanks for durability. | |
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07-19-2006, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Peach I just bought the Leon Paul superlight. Not cheap, but from what people who have it tell me it is worth it. | Well i have got a LP normal (not lightweight) sabre lame and i tell you what, its sure lighter than my old PBT one !!!!!!
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07-19-2006, 01:22 PM
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| An Leon Paul ultralight Sabre lame ould cost anyone over size 46 US $260. A FWF one will cost you $288. That currently does not fit my budget. Anyone have a BG/Absolute one? Currently I'm using a santelli lame, and I like the sauna-like effect and the associated weight-loss with sweating off 10lbs a practice, but my lungs are protesting.
A sabre lame for those who can't afford a three hundred dollar piece of clothing that's going to corrode anyhow? | |
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07-19-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JayhawkPawn An Leon Paul ultralight Sabre lame ould cost anyone over size 46 US $260. A FWF one will cost you $288. That currently does not fit my budget. Anyone have a BG/Absolute one? Currently I'm using a santelli lame, and I like the sauna-like effect and the associated weight-loss with sweating off 10lbs a practice, but my lungs are protesting.
A sabre lame for those who can't afford a three hundred dollar piece of clothing that's going to corrode anyhow? | Hmmm.
We have the FWF sabre lames for $199.95. http://www.zivkovic.com/item.jsp?web_id=562
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07-21-2006, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Craig I have a couple of the FWF lames out for testing. The general feedback is that they are very light and breathable but there hasn't been enough fencing in them to determine durability yet. | Surely breathable is illegal seeing as the rules stipulate a water resistant material? I know that infinity got special dispensation from the FIE but have FWF?
We could put a wicking liner on ours but don't because it would contravene the current rules... | |
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07-21-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_Paul We could put a wicking liner on ours but don't because it would contravene the current rules... | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Alex_Paul I know that infinity got special dispensation from the FIE... | Could ye not get special dispensation from the FIE??
I mean, is it not a bit pointless to have the top of range Sydney jacket with the transpor lining working to keep the sweat off you, only for it to be trapped under, what basically amounts to, a plastic bag covering your entire upper body!?! | |
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07-21-2006, 12:39 PM
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| Absolute just brought out a lightweight washable one. It looks good. I tried one on, but it wasn't quite cut right for me (my shoulders are broad for a woman, I think). I don't see it listed on their website yet, but you might call them.
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07-21-2006, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Peach Absolute just brought out a lightweight washable one. It looks good. I tried one on, but it wasn't quite cut right for me (my shoulders are broad for a woman, I think). I don't see it listed on their website yet, but you might call them. | Then that'll be interesting to see what they do since I hear that they will be dropping their German gear except for parts and will start carrying Leon Paul uniforms and equipment.
I sure wonder what Negrini thinks of that....
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07-21-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_Paul Surely breathable is illegal seeing as the rules stipulate a water resistant material? I know that infinity got special dispensation from the FIE but have FWF?
We could put a wicking liner on ours but don't because it would contravene the current rules... | Whaaaaa????
You mean to tell me its not just that sabre lame's are hot, but that they're DELIBERATELY designed to be as hot as possible? I'm going to assume this has something to do with transfer of sweat and conductivity and all, but how effective is this really?
Armoury types... give up the details here  .
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07-21-2006, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by oso97 Whaaaaa????
You mean to tell me its not just that sabre lame's are hot, but that they're DELIBERATELY designed to be as hot as possible? I'm going to assume this has something to do with transfer of sweat and conductivity and all, but how effective is this really?
Armoury types... give up the details here . | For much of the Electric rules of Sabre; clips and lame' rely on Foil by directing the requirements for Sabre lame' to be the same as M.28. In fact the new requirements for the wireless T-shirt uses the same Ohm requirement.
The original rule was made when electric Foil was first introduced in 1956. At that time, the circuitry was a little more robust. I have heard to protect from the shock at the '56 games some resorted to wearing a wet suit.
Now there is less of a problem and in Foil, there is more of a chance of the person wearing the lame' without a proper lining of extending their target area.
With very little experience with wireless Sabre, I am not sure what the effect would be if the lame' and the wireless T-shirt came into electrical contact.
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