Okay...another lettering on jacket thread

[Hollywood Troy]

If some tournaments require name and country on the back of your jacket or lame, why would anyone get their name on their leg?

Where do tournaments start requiring names (what level) and is leg or jacket okay for everything in the US?

[RITFencing]

National tournaments require your name somewhere, either rear leg or between the shoulders. As a ref, I like it when fencers have them at any level. As far as getting it on your leg... if you fence multiple weapons, what's on your back will change. What's covering your rear leg won't. Also, if you just have a few foil or sabre lames, then it's more cost effective to just get t on the leg. Some people also like it there. I have both, mostly because it's easier for the ref and it's easy to tell which stuff is mine if it gets mixed up.

In international competition, you need your last name between your shoulders, the country code below that, and the naitonal colors on both legs of the knickers. I don't think it's legal to have your name on your knickers at a world cup, but I'm sure others could correct me.

[Peach]

Members of the Veterans World Team were told yesterday that if we have our name on the leg, we have to cover it with a fabric patch.

[El Chucko]

According to the rulebook, having your name on your uniform is mandatory for all USFA sanctioned competitions, even at a local/divisional level. Now, that doesn't mean it is always enforced... (BTW, the penalty for not having it is a red card (t.45).)

I remember reading on this forum somewhere that one of our esteemed armorers keeps a washable marker on hand to do last minute names for people who don't have them. It would be legal, as long as it is 8-10cm high, capital letters, and dark blue. Then, if you want to later, you can wash it out and get it done professionally.

[mrbiggs]

People get it on knickers because knickers are replaced less often than lamés, and the name only has to be printed once for multi-weapon fencers.

[BySword]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Troy

Where do tournaments start requiring names (what level) and is leg or jacket okay for everything in the US?

I'd say divisional and up. it may also depend on what area you are in. for example, I even saw people getting away with no name on uniforms at gerogia game. normally local events dont enforce the rule so strictly

[Frank Pratt]

The USFA Rules do imply that names are required at all competitions. However, I think the rules is only intended to be enforced at Natioanl events. The Athlete's Handbook is not quite as "official" as the Rules, but it does clearly say that names are only required at National events:

Originally Posted by Athlete's Handbook; 2.6

. . .For national tournaments (emphasis added), the fencer’s last name must be legibly printed by hand or machine in dark blue capital letters not more than 10 cm high: either (1) on the back of the uniform or lamé between the shoulders; (2) on the front or side of the thigh of the “rear” leg; or (3) on a piece of fabric or lamé material that is firmly sewn to the uniform in such a way that it will not detach during fencing or catch the opponent’s point . . .

I heard somewhere that names are also required at any qualifying competition to a national event (e.g. JOs, Div II/III, and Sectional Championships,) though I can't find a reference to this rule.

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by Frank Pratt

I heard somewhere that names are also required at any qualifying competition to a national event (e.g. JOs, Div II/III, and Sectional Championships,) though I can't find a reference to this rule.

Qualifying tournaments are defined (in a completely different section, of course ) as being the first round of nationals. Therefore, since names are required at nationals, they are also required at the qualifiers.

This is not consistently enforced, however. There were threads last year about some sectionals that required it, but I've never personally seen the rule enforced.

[KD5MDK]

All the divisions around here that I know of have not required names for their divisionals.

[DHCJr]

Originally Posted by mrbiggs

Qualifying tournaments are defined (in a completely different section, of course ) as being the first round of nationals. Therefore, since names are required at nationals, they are also required at the qualifiers.

This is not consistently enforced, however. There were threads last year about some sectionals that required it, but I've never personally seen the rule enforced.

As is All Div I competitions are qualifiers for the World Championship. Under the same theory; those fencing in those competitions are required to go by FIE rules. Since the USFA does not follow that rule, I am of the opinion that the Divisions at their qualifiers are not oblige to follow that rule either.

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by DHCJr

As is All Div I competitions are qualifiers for the World Championship. Under the same theory; those fencing in those competitions are required to go by FIE rules. Since the USFA does not follow that rule, I am of the opinion that the Divisions at their qualifiers are not oblige to follow that rule either.

Yeah, but it is possible. I always make sure that my name is somewhere before division qualifiers or sectionals, even though it probably will be fine.

[Dax]

Names were required at SE sectionals this year, there were several people running around with dark blue sharpies...