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    Div 2/3 NAC question

    Some of our fencers at RIT might start hitting the div 2 and 3 NACs this year, and since I never fenced them myself and am now inelligible I thought I'd look up the format. It says in the athlete's handbook that 800% are promoted from pools. Unless there's a cloning machine, that's a typo. I'm curious, though, as to whether an extra zero was added or the 1 was changed to an 8. Is it 80% promotion of 100%?
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    Eighty percent.
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    Thanks.
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    Uh . . . I think. It's late and I just got back from Atlanta, so I suddenly have the uneasy feeling that I don't know. Not only that, I'm not sure who I am and what state this is.
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    You are the Walrus (you are the egg man, coo coo cachoo), and it's a state of confusion, apparently.

    EDIT: Egg woman, forgive me.
    Last edited by RITFencing; 07-09-2006 at 10:41 PM.
    "If I were ever to challenge you to a duel, your best bet would be battle axes in a very dark basement." Misquoted from The Prisoner

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    Just wondering...how do E rated fencers qualify to fence in the Div1A mens foil? Thanks.

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    Easy, do well in a weak sectional qualifier.
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    As one who is too lazy to open the PDF containing the athlete's handbook I feel the need to ask whether the 80% cut applies to all Div 2/3s. I thought it was only for national championships (in which ALL events now have a cut including say a vet60 event with 5 competitors )
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    As someone who was not too lazy to check, div 2/3 at nationals is the same format as at a NAC, the only difference is the qualification path.
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    i thought divII/III NAC are all 100% promotion.. it was when i went to my one and only NAC not too long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RITFencing
    You are the Walrus (you are the egg man, coo coo cachoo), and it's a state of confusion, apparently.

    EDIT: Egg woman, forgive me.
    I think thats APE man, not egg man... Not like that song suddenly makes sense or anything even if I am right. Oh, and to the best of my recolection it is 80% up.
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    From the Reno NAC E Athlete Information Packet:

    Division II (DV2) One round of pools; 100% promoted to simple direct elimination in which bouts are 15-touch bouts in three 3-minute segments.
    Division III (DV3) One round of pools; 100% promoted to simple direct elimination in which bouts are 15-touch bouts in three 3-minute segments.

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    Right. The cut only applies at Nationals, not at NACs. Meanwhile the cut for Div I is 60%.
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    Div 1 I know, because I've fenced it. Thanks for the info on the others, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KD5MDK
    From the Reno NAC E Athlete Information Packet:

    Division II (DV2) One round of pools; 100% promoted to simple direct elimination in which bouts are 15-touch bouts in three 3-minute segments.
    Division III (DV3) One round of pools; 100% promoted to simple direct elimination in which bouts are 15-touch bouts in three 3-minute segments.
    I think you're right. However, but the Athlete's Handbook begs to differ:

    Quote Originally Posted by '05 - '06 Athlete's Handbook; 2.11.3
    Format (NAC & Championships)
    • One round of pools
    • 800% promoted out of pools
    • No repêchage
    • DE bout format: 15 touches in three 3-minute segments. In sabre, bouts are fenced to
    15 touches, with a 1-minute break when the first fencer reaches 8 touches.
    Assuming "800%" means "80%," the Handbook includes NACs in the 80% rule. However, I am pretty sure the Board's ruling only changed the Div II/III championships to 80% promotion.
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