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    Independence Day

    Yo all you happy ass patriots. You wanted some thread like this so you can rant about how people misjudge your country and all that right?

    Happy 4th july
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    Actually, you missed it by three days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jBirch
    Actually, you missed it by three days...
    Or almost a month.

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    Happy 4th july
    But thanks for your wishes on my Names Day.
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    Or, since you are from Singapore, you are premature by a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aqua_volans
    Yo all you happy ass patriots. You wanted some thread like this so you can rant about how people misjudge your country and all that right?

    Happy 4th july
    I do not fear other people misjudging my country; my only fear is that their misjudgement may be true.

    And happy 4th of July to you, too.
    Nothing is more frightening than ignorance in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lochinvar
    I do not fear other people misjudging my country; my only fear is that their misjudgement may be true.
    Don't sweat the post - everyone fails to hold a mirror to their true selves. Be grateful that the press and media in the US is (still, for now) sufficiently independent to allow actual news to be reported and for officials to be satirized (forget about Fox "News" Network - Stephen Colbert Rules!). Heck, civil rights violations happen everywhere, everyday - but in most places, these get swept under the rug and any purported investigation results in a finding of no wrong doing. The reason the West gets critiqued more openly is because the violations get publicized more openly and frequently.

    Aqua_Volans: stop reading The Straits Times/New Paper/Today and read some real reporting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five Rings
    Aqua_Volans: stop reading The Straits Times/New Paper/Today and read some real reporting!
    i don't read that ****. all that the press writes are politically correct stuff. I mean what do you expect, from a country that considers racist blogging sedition.
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    I don't think that there would be so much of an issue of political correctness if it is reasoned political correctness - meaning that you come to a politically correct conclusion after analyzing all sides of the matter. What I don't like about those publications is that they only tell "one side of the story" - meaning you get some of the facts and the balance of it is opinion dressed up as fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Five Rings
    What I don't like about those publications is that they only tell "one side of the story" - meaning you get some of the facts and the balance of it is opinion dressed up as fact.
    Oh. I see...Fox News, in other words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lochinvar
    Oh. I see...Fox News, in other words.
    You will be surprised how elsewhere Fox News is the "norm" in terms of reporting - "fair and balanced" indeed; about as fair and balanced as an Asian elephant that had been doused in tar sitting on a see saw with a mouse on the other end. Mind you, when I first came to the US, I thought the NY Times and Washington Post were right of centre, as was Network TV. I thought the TV Newsmag interviewers were akin to foil fencers attacking with bent arms (read what you want into that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeve_Mari
    Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
    ~ Adlai Stevenson
    Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. George Benard Shaw

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    I would like to wish all those in the colonies a belated independence day. Live long and prosper, nanu nanu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five Rings
    You will be surprised how elsewhere Fox News is the "norm" in terms of reporting - "fair and balanced" indeed; about as fair and balanced as an Asian elephant that had been doused in tar sitting on a see saw with a mouse on the other end. Mind you, when I first came to the US, I thought the NY Times and Washington Post were right of centre, as was Network TV. I thought the TV Newsmag interviewers were akin to foil fencers attacking with bent arms (read what you want into that).
    NY Times leaning to the right? What country did you immigrate from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim
    NY Times leaning to the right? What country did you immigrate from?
    Garfield: You talk funny Nash. Where you from?
    Nash: Lots of different places.

    Go read The Guardian from UK (OK, at that time, I also read The Daily Worker but that was more an affectation than anything), or even watch the interviews on BBC TV. I find TV interviewers less dogged over here (and I am not from the UK - hah!), although radio is a whole different discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Five Rings
    SNIP

    (OK, at that time, I also read The Daily Worker but that was more an affectation than anything)
    That certainly helps put your views in context.

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