How many A rated epee fencers are there?

[Goldgar]

Wow. That's absurd. Basically, the number of epee As more than doubled in less than 3 years

That's 20 years until every member of the USFA has an epee A.

Better check the change in the total number of fencers between 2003 and today.

[mrbiggs]

Better check the change in the total number of fencers between 2003 and today.

There was a thread a while back that said it remained about constant, so I went with that.

[KD5MDK]

That the total membership remained constant? I highly doubt it.

Anyway, if there are only ~60WE As, then I'm impressed I know 10 of them off the top of my head.

[mrbiggs]

That the total membership remained constant? I highly doubt it.

Anyway, if there are only ~60WE As, then I'm impressed I know 10 of them off the top of my head.

Fine, I'll find the thread. It certainly didn't double.

Membership numbers

There. Not quite as steady as I remember, but it's still remaining about the same. 16,600 - 21,000 is a
26.5% increase. 116 to 310 is a 167% increase.

Texas is a huge epee A-spot. Nearly all A4 events are held there, as found in a recent thread. (Not applicable to WE, but same idea...) Plus, that's only among askfred fencers.

[KD5MDK]

Well, Texas is probably a little ahead of the country in AskFRED use, too. (Or, at least, equal. But I honestly will tell tournament organizers "If you're not on FRED, you don't exist to me")

Also, the meaning of a real "A" rating is of course up to the beholder.

[peet]

Discarding a few entries (Bigg Bertha, Ivanna Tinkles, Timbuk Tuu, Anne Katherine Donath (should be a foil A, not an epee A), Mike Hawk (I assume he's not a woman)) yields 62. Of those 5 are foreign (including Flessel-Colovic who I assume is not actually a member of the TN division and likely has not entered a USFA event).

Note: I did not attempt to find women that were mis-listed as male.

-B

Alright, who the f**k put those fake ones in there??? All entered at the same time by the same person too..... Some a**hole....

I really hate it when people do that: put fake data into FRED. It's really disrespectful of all the users who depend on the information in there (not to mention the time spent developing & maintaining the tool and it's data).

Some days I'd really like to strangle a few people.

Thanks for bringing those to my attention, oiuyt. I've killed them.

-p

[seak]

I wonder how many women's sabre A's there are and where they are located. In particular I wonder if there are any women's sabre A's outside of Oregon, NY and Georgia

[Dax]

Yay for Georgia!

Sorry, Im not in the best thinking mood right now...

[peet]

I wonder how many women's sabre A's there are and where they are located. In particular I wonder if there are any women's sabre A's outside of Oregon, NY and Georgia

Around 23 in FRED: with all in the areas you mentioned except 2 in Illinois, and 1 in New England

65 of either gender....

[JEC]

For the entire SOUTHWEST Section, fencers' ratings are available online. See: http://www.southwestfencing.org/Ratings/

The Southwest Section does not include all of Texas, the Panhandle is with the Rocky Mountain group. Nevertheless, for the SWS (~10% of USFA), the numbers are:

Saber - 4 A's (all in Texas)
Epee - 53 A's ( 38 from Texas)
Foil - 10 A's ( 9 from Texas)

Keep in mind, that several of these fencers are currently in college away from Texas. For example, Anthony Kai (E), Tommi Hurme (E), Erin McGarry (E), Aaron Adjemian (E), Kaela Brendler (E), Aaron Rodney (E), Michael Galligan (F), Mark Kubik (F), Steven Geberman (F), and Steve Ahn (S).

Although it is easier to earn an A in Epee than other weapons, we also have had historically really good Epee Coaching and fencers for many years. The US Modern Penthatlon was in Texas for several decades creating a competitive environment that attracted fencers and coaches to come here, and there was a ripple effect into the community.

In previous threads, I have shown that if you look at what have been the BEST and AVERAGE result of our A fencers, they tend to do better than expected, and that our distribution of A's reflect our SWS results in National Championships.

Finally, in scientific discourse, you only need to prove that the initial statement (hypothesis) is incorrect. Here it is with a bit of logic 101:

I am a Texan.
I am NOT an A (I'm a B in Epee - perhaps impaired fencer in Texas)
Therefore, all Texans are NOT As.

[Jason]

Finally, in scientific discourse, you only need to prove that the initial statement (hypothesis) is incorrect. Here it is with a bit of logic 101:

I am a Texan.
I am NOT an A (I'm a B in Epee - perhaps impaired fencer in Texas)
Therefore, all Texans are NOT As.

A sadly flawed argument.
The statement "Everyone in Texas has an A in epee" is not a hypothesis but, rather, an axiom.
Axiomatically, all Texans are As.
Ipso facto, you are not a Texan.

Sorry to break it to you.