06-23-2006, 01:03 AM
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#1 | | Member
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| where does your club buy medals at? I am not having a successful time trying to find a good medallions at a good price for our club's up coming tournament (august 19th) i dont want to use the same medal as what our other local club uses though theirs is nice and quite reasonably priced. Any leads to companies that can show me a pic of the medal and a good price would be appreciated!
margaret brunelle
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Dare Mighty Things Open Tournament August 19th 2006
benefiting Big Brothers Big Sisters organization
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06-23-2006, 08:30 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| We use http://www.crownawards.com They have a variety of designs are well made.
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06-23-2006, 09:23 AM
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#3 | | The Judge
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| last tournaments ive run, i've not purchased medals. i've found that if you can get a reputation for having a nice award, you'll bring in fencers who are tired of winning crappy, cheapish medals, i.e. a somewhat higher calibre of fencers. the tournament will benefit from increased difficulty and a few more people, which i think offsets the price. |
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06-23-2006, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sanadika where does your club buy medals at? | Could someone please change the title of this thread to:
"Where does your club buy medals?"
... now back to the topic, sorry for the interruption  |
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06-23-2006, 10:16 AM
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#5 | | Member
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| I struggle with being dyslexic so please excuse my bad grammar or sentence structuring.
I still am soliciting any other suggestions for places to get medals at. I have checked out crown and that may be the one im going to go with but id like to see if there are others that i can compare. |
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06-23-2006, 10:34 AM
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#6 | | The Judge
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| if you're stuck on the medal idea, find someone from the univeristy of florida. their medals from the green gator were simply the best i've ever seen, ever. |
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06-23-2006, 11:00 AM
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#7 | | Scavenger
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Originally Posted by Smyles Could someone please change the title of this thread to:
"Where does your club buy medals?"
... now back to the topic, sorry for the interruption  | Ending a sentence with a preposition is not actually ungrammatical. That's a myth. Though this construction does imply that the verb "to buy" is paired commonly with "at," and is therefore infelicitous, it ain't downright wrong.
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06-23-2006, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Peach Ending a sentence with a preposition is not actually ungrammatical. That's a myth. Though this construction does imply that the verb "to buy" is paired commonly with "at," and is therefore infelicitous, it ain't downright wrong. | It is considerably less grammatically sound than a split infinitive, and is generally more difficult to diagram than most misplaced modifiers. Though this is all based on a proscriptive grammar, which is not entirely 'appropriate,' I suppose.
And I think that when you diagram the sentence in question, and then try to rewrite it in 'conventional' order, it sounds awkward:
At where does your club buy medals?
The word 'where' seems to be a very unwieldy object of our preposition in this case. I'd prefer to say (or write) something like 'At what vendor does your club buy medals?' and let the word 'what' be an adjective, vendor be the object of my preposition, and so on.
Though I'll agree, I'd have a hard time saying that the sentence as written is hard to understand  And I'd have a harder time saying that 'What vendor does your club buy medals at?' is really wrong, per se.
Thoughts of a chemistry major who avoided paper writing like the plague 
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06-23-2006, 11:23 AM
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#9 | | Scavenger
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| Hee hee.  Split infinitives aren't ungrammatical either, oddly enough. Diagramming (a practice invented in the 19th century) isn't the basis of grammar, it's just a convenient way of understanding it.
That aside, I suggest strongly to my students that they neither end sentences with prepositions nor split infinitives until they know what they're doing, because otherwise people will jump on their sentences with combat boots. When writers do know what they're doing, nobody notices when they madly split infinitives, end sentences with prepositions, and begin sentences with "And" or "But."
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06-23-2006, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tomas N | We also buy from Crown Awards. We have a custom design that was drawn by a division fencer. They are very easy to work and the medals look great.
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06-24-2006, 07:57 AM
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#11 | | Senior Member
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| A lot of the somewhat silly English grammar rules come from Latin. As Latin is a Romance language, and English is Germanic, albeit with a lot of latin influence, it is kind of like a square peg in a round hole situation. In Latin, you can't split infinitives because they are only one word. Latin simply doesn't use prepositions at the end of sentences, at least not that I have ever seen, because they like to end sentences with the verb. It keeps the reader in suspense. However, English does not do this. Liberate yourselves from the clutches of the Latin grammarians!
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06-24-2006, 08:01 AM
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#12 | | I am a man... A MEGA MAN!
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| Speaking of awards, are you guys gonna have a tournament this coming semester? I think I might not be too poor to go.
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06-24-2006, 08:07 AM
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#13 | | Épéeist Hive Queen
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Originally Posted by Tomas N | Cool site!
I would love to have one of those Dog Tags for a prize! That way you could also use it as a piece of jewellery, showing off your sport. 
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06-24-2006, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Peach When writers do know what they're doing, nobody notices when they madly split infinitives, end sentences with prepositions, and begin sentences with "And" or "But." | Sooooo true. Personally I love to end sentences with preposition just for the sense of freedom it gives me - it is nearly impossible in Russian. |
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06-24-2006, 11:31 AM
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#15 | | Just Joined
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| Prepositions Middle of London:
Texan: Say, can y'all tell me where the best fencing club in London is at?
Englishman: I think you will find that in England, my good man, we never end a sentence with a preposition.
Texan: Okay, then can y'all tell me where the best fencing club in London is at, you officious, pedantic, stuck up British idiot?
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06-24-2006, 11:52 AM
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#16 | | Épéeist Hive Queen
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Originally Posted by Simaraon Middle of London:
Texan: Say, can y'all tell me where the best fencing club in London is at?
Englishman: I think you will find that in England, my good man, we never end a sentence with a preposition.
Texan: Okay, then can y'all tell me where the best fencing club in London is at, you officious, pedantic, stuck up British idiot? | Your first post?
Wow, someone actually signed up just to reply! 
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06-24-2006, 12:45 PM
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#17 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| But they signed up in May, so probably not to reply to this exact thread. |
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06-24-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK But they signed up in May, so probably not to reply to this exact thread. | Been watching and reading a lot of threads for a while. But I liked the grammar discussion, it amused me.
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06-24-2006, 01:40 PM
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| Latin sentence structure certainly tends to end with a verb, but only in the same way that English sentence structure tends to be 'subject verb object.' It's also probably worth noting that most of the Latin we have to peruse is what was saved, and so probably a fairly small cross section of what was written, after all. But it does sound pretty ^^
Even looking at the first sentence of the Aeneid, while the first phras does end in a verb, none of the rest do
Arma virumque cano, Troiae qui primus ab oris
Italiam, fato profugus, Laviniaque venit
litora, multum ille et terris iactatus et alto
vi superum saevae memorem Iunonis ob iram;
multa quoque et bello passus, dum conderet urbem, 5
inferretque deos Latio, genus unde Latinum,
Albanique patres, atque altae moenia Romae.
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06-24-2006, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by keropie Latin sentence structure certainly tends to end with a verb, but only in the same way that English sentence structure tends to be 'subject verb object.' It's also probably worth noting that most of the Latin we have to peruse is what was saved, and so probably a fairly small cross section of what was written, after all. But it does sound pretty ^^
Even looking at the first sentence of the Aeneid, while the first phras does end in a verb, none of the rest do
Arma virumque cano, Troiae qui primus ab oris
Italiam, fato profugus, Laviniaque venit
litora, multum ille et terris iactatus et alto
vi superum saevae memorem Iunonis ob iram;
multa quoque et bello passus, dum conderet urbem, 5
inferretque deos Latio, genus unde Latinum,
Albanique patres, atque altae moenia Romae. | Eheu, non sum qualis eram... |
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