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Old 06-23-2006, 09:39 AM   #61
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Ah. That's not so bad. I'd concentrate on the assistants in this case still, as they are the ones who are reinforcing this stuff.



Yeah, but the root of your problem is still that your assistants are teaching the wrong things. You're not going to solve that by teaching the right things yourself. At best, you'll just postpone the same problem. At worst, all you're going to do is get confused students (coach says do X and ass't coach says do Y...which am I supposed to do?). Even worse, with this approach, you're essentially saying in public that your assistant coaches are incompetent, stupid and not to be listened to. This will cause a lot of grief for you down the road.

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That's true, I can't solve the problem myself. If I had a lot of time to sit down and work with the assistants beforehand, that would be optimal, but I have to finish my degree up in rochester in the fall, and so I won't be around. Right now my plan is to bring the coaching staff and this year's experienced kids up to speed at the same time, and next year take a more backseat role. It involves a lot of work right now, but once I get the ball rolling I think it will turn out for the best. One thing I want to make sure of is that bad practices are no longer being taught, and that may require more direct intervention in the beginning of this year. Nip the problem in the bud, so to speak.

I think that training the assistants in one way or another is going to be one of my big jobs this year.
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:50 AM   #62
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That's true, I can't solve the problem myself. If I had a lot of time to sit down and work with the assistants beforehand, that would be optimal, but I have to finish my degree up in rochester in the fall, and so I won't be around. Right now my plan is to bring the coaching staff and this year's experienced kids up to speed at the same time, and next year take a more backseat role. It involves a lot of work right now, but once I get the ball rolling I think it will turn out for the best. One thing I want to make sure of is that bad practices are no longer being taught, and that may require more direct intervention in the beginning of this year. Nip the problem in the bud, so to speak.

I think that training the assistants in one way or another is going to be one of my big jobs this year.
Oh good. I was afraid you were thinking of just cutting the incompetent coaches out of the picture completely! *grin*

It sounds like you have everything well in hand. I'll keep an eye out for any exercises/games that work well in large groups on the condition that you'll post any you receive from anyone else. Finding compilations of fencing games seems a mite bit more difficult then it ought to be.

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Finding compilations of fencing games seems a mite bit more difficult then it ought to be.
I'll second that. Maybe you guys could put together a fencing games DVD in your spare time!

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