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Old 06-20-2006, 10:20 PM   #1
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Rio Grande River

At one time, the Rio Grande was a big river and it sort of dried up.
Now we see the Pearl River and the Mississippi overflowing to Flood conditions; could the building of the Hoover Dam have created this problem?
Is the Hoover too big?

I say this because I just saw that India wants to build a dam, however seeing that they flood frequently will it have an opposite effect?
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What do any of these threads have to do with politics?
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At one time, the Rio Grande was a big river and it sort of dried up.
Now we see the Pearl River and the Mississippi overflowing to Flood conditions; could the building of the Hoover Dam have created this problem?
Is the Hoover too big?

I say this because I just saw that India wants to build a dam, however seeing that they flood frequently will it have an opposite effect?

There has been much concern over the expansion of the Mississipi, and the levels of water in the Great Lakes (Huron/Michigan) have been dropping drastically. Look North. The expansion of rivers is probably to blame.
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Rio Grande River is redundant.

Sorry. Back to the thread.
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You mean like "New York City" ?
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At one time, the Rio Grande was a big river and it sort of dried up.
Now we see the Pearl River and the Mississippi overflowing to Flood conditions; could the building of the Hoover Dam have created this problem?
Is the Hoover too big?
Ummm...I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that since the Hoover Dam is on a river drainage on the west side of the Continental Divide, and the Mississippi in on the EAST side of the Divide (as is the Rio Grande), the Hoover Dam plays little role in flooding or drying up either.

A better example of a river affected by dams and diversions: the Arkansas River. It starts high in the Collegiate Peaks Range in central Colorado, and used to run unabated through Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas into the Mississippi.

Now, it disappears into a sandy riverbed in southeast Colorado or southwest Kansas, depending on the snowpack for that particular year. By the time the dams along the river hold back their share, and the legion of farmers with rubber hoses and pumps take their fair share (or unfair share, depending on whether you're a litigant in Colorado or Kansas) the river is sucked dry.

A better dam question is whether the Glen Canyon Dam (originally designed to help keep Lake Mead from silting up....there's your Hoover Dam connection) should be removed, given that it is inexorably destroying the riparian environment inside the Grand Canyon National Park.
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OH Captain..... I see your point......

That said, there's the underground water flow that is also important to consider. For example, water does not just exist on top of the land, it comes from underground and bubbles up somewhere northerly [usually], forming small brooks, into streams, which become rivers which as they continue southerly, widen and become more riverlike......[read Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring]

In reply to others:
It only provokes a problem of one kind or another. If it had not dried up, they wouldn't be building a fence. Maybe the fence thing could be a temporary measure until they get things in order again and people have a better handle on the criminal thing. Once an area has more of a grasp of it's internal stuff you can afford to include people from a different areas.

As a Migrant workers recently said: "Who Will Pick Your Fruits?" I think his message escaped you....He was saying - Pick your own fruit, and you should!!! Why should people in California or anywhere else expect poor people from Mexico to labor in the fields for $8 bucks a day, while guys in Beverly Hills dine on their Strawberries? It's too pitifully unfair, I'm afraid, my friends it's back to Meat and Pototoes, and Captain Crunchberries in a little gladbag.

Hiring those people today, is the same as Sharecropping and almost like slavery. We should pick our own crops and make our own grub. While I feel there is room for gourmet foods it should be something that is shared equally for everyone that comes to the united states or was originally born here. Rembmer that Fois Gras is nothing more than liverwourst from a tormented goose.

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The Santa Cruz river in Arizona used to flow. With the influx of people over the last one hundred years pumping groundwater the water table has dropped to the point that most of our water now comes from very deep wells. The Santa Cruz is now a dry wash in most of the state. The problem is that there are more people in the Southwest than the nature can support.
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You mean like "New York City" ?
Or NT Technology. One could also argue this to be an oxymoron.
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