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    Wife Accused in Swordplay Death of Husband
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    BEIJING (June 20) - A Chinese woman has been charged with accidentally killing her husband with a sword after he refused to make her dinner, the Shanghai Daily said on Tuesday.

    Police said Tang Xiaowan, 25, who has been practicing swordsmanship since she was young, had often forced her husband of three years at swordpoint to carry out her demands. On March 3, her husband, Li Weidong, refused to cook dinner because he was late for work.

    Police said Tang picked up her sword and put it on Li's chest and promptly slipped, stabbing Li by mistake. Li died in hospital from loss of blood. Tang was arrested Monday and charged with manslaughter.
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    They're gonna get her with one of those death mobiles.
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    Sadly, things like this happens almost every day all over the world. Only, in 99% of the cases it is men who abuse/beat/kill their spouses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen
    Sadly, things like this happens almost every day all over the world. Only, in 99% of the cases it is men who abuse/beat/kill their spouses.
    I would love to see where you get these statistics from. I'd be willing to bet that it's not THAT lopsided. Probably 97% tops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfHearts
    I would love to see where you get these statistics from. I'd be willing to bet that it's not THAT lopsided. Probably 97% tops.
    I confess, I ripped it out of thin air. I didn't look any statistics up so you may be correct.

    Still, the percentage of mens violence against women is considerably higher than the oppsite.
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    Men are more likely to be violent criminals, regardless of the gender of the victim. Also, at least where I grew up, boys were raised to be less averse to violence than girls. Not saying that's a good thing; just how it was and probably still is.
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    what a dumb***. slipped, but had been practicing her swordsmanship for how long?! duh...
    i wonder how much of a cowardly yellowbellied jellyfish the husband was too put up with this, too. (wait, i looked, its 3 **** years! what a wimp!) why didn't he fight back, or something? he could have taken her out real easy with a frying pan! geez...some people are such spineless lumps of goo. its pathetic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen
    I confess, I ripped it out of thin air. I didn't look any statistics up so you may be correct.

    Still, the percentage of mens violence against women is considerably higher than the oppsite.
    Not necessarily.

    The general tenor of the Research appears to be substantially equal acts of violence by men and women (or slightly more by women) on their partners with more serious injury generally caused to women.

    1997 U.S. Justice Statistics on Emergency Room Visits for Intentional Violence show ~69,000 for men cause by wives/ex-wives/girlfriends compared to ~204,000 to women by husband/ex-husbands/boyfriends. (The study does note the caveat that there were 300,000 visits of men which appeared to be from intentional violence for which no cause was given versus 100,000 for women.

    With regard to homicides--in the US in 2002, 388 men were killed by their intimate partners vs. 1202 women. BOJS Numbers

    Oddly, the rate of men being killed by women has fallen much faster since 1976 then women being killed by men. In 1976, it was 1357 men killed by intimate partners vs. 1600 women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philistine
    The general tenor of the Research appears to be substantially equal acts of violence by men and women (or slightly more by women) on their partners with more serious injury generally caused to women.
    I'm having trouble squaring this statement with your numbers, which seem to show that there are three women being caused serious damage for every one man.

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    Philistine, that's interesting statistics. Although it seems to be for the US only, I was referring to the entire world. (I had the so-called "kitchen accidents" and the like in mind.)

    Still, I may have exaggerated when I wrote 99%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qatet
    I'm having trouble squaring this statement with your numbers, which seem to show that there are three women being caused serious damage for every one man.
    Isn't that what I said? (The last phrase of the sentence you quoted). I.e., similar amounts of violence, but violence by men tends to cause more serious injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen
    Philistine, that's interesting statistics. Although it seems to be for the US only, I was referring to the entire world. (I had the so-called "kitchen accidents" and the like in mind.){snip}
    The bibliography (which contains a very brief precis of the findings of each study) at the link "Research" does contain a number of other countries' findings. (Though it's mainly US, with a fair amount of Candian and some British, there are studies from Australia, Korea, Pakistan, South Africa and other countries).

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    I dont know what to say besides...


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    I think I'd dig this chick....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philistine
    With regard to homicides--in the US in 2002, 388 men were killed by their intimate partners vs. 1202 women.

    Oddly, the rate of men being killed by women has fallen much faster since 1976 then women being killed by men. In 1976, it was 1357 men killed by intimate partners vs. 1600 women.

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    Also, stats of this sort are doubtless skewed because of a significant difference in the weapons favored by men vs. women.

    Men use hands, clubs, guns and knives. A woman's favorite choice of weapon is probably---another man. That is, she gets a lover to do the actual killing for her. Then when caught she testifies against him in return for a plea deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata
    Men use hands, clubs, guns and knives. A woman's favorite choice of weapon is probably---another man. That is, she gets a lover to do the actual killing for her. Then when caught she testifies against him in return for a plea deal.
    From what I can remember from criminology, a man's #1 choice of homicide weapon is a gun, and for women, gun recently surpassed knife as hers. Of course, this doesn't take into account the fact that she could get another man to do it (you forgot brother/father or other family): a very likely scenario.
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    You and I both know there's no such thing as a parry that's effective against an angry woman...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Jeebus
    You and I both know there's no such thing as a parry that's effective against an angry woman...
    Yes there is. The distance parry. Beating a hasty retreat is one's only chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtmac
    Yes there is. The distance parry. Beating a hasty retreat is one's only chance.
    muahahaha!! run away in fear, cowards!

    i just realized my foil hand stays as if it was around a pistol grip when its relaxed. my left hand just sits normally...thats not good...
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