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sjpfencer220 · 06-12-2006, 11:50 PM

Hmm, I'll be in Nantucket over the 8/20 open foil and 8/28 C and Under Epee (assuming I don't get a B by then) so I could probably take the ferry over for those, however, I don't think that my parents will be too happy with my taking my fencing bag on the plane there, and I think in those little planes we take for the last part of the way it wouldn't fit, so I would like to do it but was wondering if you had any left-handed electric foil/epee stuff I could borrow. I probably can take everything (mask, uniform, lame, cords, card, shoes...) but the weapons in a little bag there, but are there any weapons I can use by chance?

prototoast · 06-12-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamer90024

Normally it's epee and foil who have that problem. It was going to be sabre's turn eventually.

I wouldn't complain if sabre were taking one for the team that day, but it's the only event of the day, and unless they get 100 registrants, I don't see the event going all that late.

MyrddinsPrecint · 06-13-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by prototoast

Is it really necessary to have the july 29th sabre event close registration at 9am? It's the only event that day, and it's sabre so it won't take too long. For those of us with longer commutes, it would certainly be kickass if I didn't have to get up at 5am.

seconded.

really really seconded.

oiuyt · 06-13-2006, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sjpfencer220

Hmm, I'll be in Nantucket over the 8/20 open foil and 8/28 C and Under Epee (assuming I don't get a B by then)

If you earn a B your vacation plans get cut short? Dang, mean parents... :)

-B

epeemike81 · 06-13-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by prototoast

Is it really necessary to have the july 29th sabre event close registration at 9am? It's the only event that day, and it's sabre so it won't take too long. For those of us with longer commutes, it would certainly be kickass if I didn't have to get up at 5am.

That event is at the end of a week long sabre camp with Mr. Ma of the Fencing Academy of South Jersey. so, I'd imagine that it's nice for those with a VERY long commute (i.e., all the way back to South Jersey) to be able to get underway at a reasonable hour. despite my avatar, I actually do not know if that's the reason, but I'd speculate it may be.

-m

prototoast · 06-13-2006, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

seconded.

really really seconded.

Carpool?

prototoast · 06-13-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by epeemike81

That event is at the end of a week long sabre camp with Mr. Ma of the Fencing Academy of South Jersey. so, I'd imagine that it's nice for those with a VERY long commute (i.e., all the way back to South Jersey) to be able to get underway at a reasonable hour. despite my avatar, I actually do not know if that's the reason, but I'd speculate it may be.

-m

Seems reasonable, but I bet they'd all enjoy an extra hour of sleep, too.

Peach · 06-13-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by seak

Trying to be, now I just need to remember that head is target in foil and stop prepping so bad

. The sabre part is still coming along

I think it is distinctly possible we will get 6. WAFATH will probably fence as well and a couple others

Well, then, it's distinctly possible I'll come down! That would be fun. My hat is off to you--I fenced some epee last year and it was apparently a very moving experience to those who watched me. They did seem to be praying and averting their eyes.

sjpfencer220 · 06-13-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oiuyt

If you earn a B your vacation plans get cut short? Dang, mean parents...

I'll be in Nantucket the whole time, I just won't be able to go to that tournament as it is a C and Under. The 2nd part of that statement was completely correct though

. My new card though says that I have a B in foil and a D in epee, it messed up both ratings. If only I can think of a way to get them to only make the epee one right, to a C, but keep the foil one...

oiuyt · 06-13-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sjpfencer220

I'll be in Nantucket the whole time, I just won't be able to go to that tournament as it is a C and Under. The 2nd part of that statement was completely correct though

. My new card though says that I have a B in foil and a D in epee, it messed up both ratings. If only I can think of a way to get them to only make the epee one right, to a C, but keep the foil one...

*WHOOSH*

Aside from the complete lack of a sarcasm detector, why would you want an unearned classification? Especially a B? B's aren't particularly useful for anything and they limit your opportunities. If you can't fence at a B level you really shouldn't want to have one. You'd be much better off with an accurate classification that allows you to optimally develop.

-B

MyrddinsPrecint · 06-14-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by prototoast

Carpool?

you forget.

we flip flop.

one of us is in RI and one of us is in western mass at a time.

except that one day in january when i was getting east side pockets with Telk, and i saw you. I was going to yell at you, but he stopped me.

prototoast · 06-14-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

you forget.

we flip flop.

one of us is in RI and one of us is in western mass at a time.

except that one day in january when i was getting east side pockets with Telk, and i saw you. I was going to yell at you, but he stopped me.

Bah, there's no reason that should stop it. Just because I'd have to get up an extra hour earlier and go significantly out of my way, in the end, it's almost like there was some benefit to it. Why must I be the only sabre fencer in the world in western mass in the summertime?

KD5MDK · 06-14-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oiuyt

If you can't fence at a B level you really shouldn't want to have one. You'd be much better off with an accurate classification that allows you to optimally develop.

-B

I can't fence at a B level, and I'd like to have one. But then, it's called ambition. In any event, I'm not sure the personal harm of having a somewhat higher rating than you fence is too severe, compared to say pool where having a higher rating directly affects your handicap.

epeemike81 · 06-14-2006, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK

I can't fence at a B level, and I'd like to have one. But then, it's called ambition. In any event, I'm not sure the personal harm of having a somewhat higher rating than you fence is too severe, compared to say pool where having a higher rating directly affects your handicap.

what a C can fence that a B can't: C and unders, div II.
what a B can fence that a C can't: nothing.

I can certainly see harm in getting a B before you're ready. It can eliminate tournaments that would be valuable opportunities for experience.

-m

keropie · 06-14-2006, 02:59 AM

And the ambition should be to be good enogh to deserve a B, and therefore to earn it

oiuyt · 06-14-2006, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by keropie

And the ambition should be to be good enogh to deserve a B, and therefore to earn it

And, indeed, for most people that IS the ambition. KD5's statement could be interpreted either as a desire (ambition) to have a B classification OR as a desire to be a B-level fencer with a B classification.

And EM81, of course, concisely states why having an unearned B is not a Good Thing (well, one of the reasons).

-B

epeemike81 · 06-14-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by oiuyt

And EM81, of course, concisely states why having an unearned B is not a Good Thing (well, one of the reasons).

-B

or, for that matter, an earned B. I see no great advantage to a B or an A (seeding just isn't that important) and would frankly be content to always be a C, no matter what the level of fencing (which is not to say that I'd TRY to remain a C).

-m

KD5MDK · 06-14-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by epeemike81

what a C can fence that a B can't: C and unders, div II.
what a B can fence that a C can't: nothing.

I can certainly see harm in getting a B before you're ready. It can eliminate tournaments that would be valuable opportunities for experience.

-m

I have never seen a C & Under tournament in my section. So I wouldn't miss those. Div II is expensive, if you don't have it very close to home. Seeding does matter that much, to me. In sabre, around here, if you have a B you should be top seed in a pool, rather than having someone theoretically stronger than you in it. Since as far as I know all those theoretically stronger fencers are actually stronger than me right now, I'm much better off not fencing them in pools.

epeemike81 · 06-14-2006, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK

I have never seen a C & Under tournament in my section.

wow....

-m

epeemike81 · 06-14-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KD5MDK

I have never seen a C & Under tournament in my section. So I wouldn't miss those. Div II is expensive, if you don't have it very clo