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    vancouver world cup?

    Has anyone heard of people going to this world cup this weekend? Or have results? Apparently there are some "world cups" (like this one) that have no requirements, ie, a certain classification or points list status...does anyone have any experience with competitions like these?

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    Yes, and how do I find more of them?
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    I think you guys are talking about Satellite World Cups... I haven't been to one myself, but I'm pretty sure that you still need to be entered by your NGB (National Governing Body, in this case the USFA,) which means you'll have to ask them. From what I understand, it's not too difficult to convince them to enter someone.

    As far as finding one, you can search the competitions on the FIE's website, www.fie.ch. I recall looking a while ago and seeing none in the US, but I that may have changed, or I may have botched the search.
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    (non-Grand Prix) World cups outside of europe can set different entry requirements.

    In the case of world cups in the US anyone on the US senior points list may enter.

    In the case of world cups in Canada anyone may enter.

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    Does entry to all of these still need to be handled through the USFA?
    "If I were ever to challenge you to a duel, your best bet would be battle axes in a very dark basement." Misquoted from The Prisoner

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    No live results online?

    What, no live results online? WTF is going on!?!? CFF should be ashamed of themselves, etc. ad nauseum.

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    Actually, I heard the following today: Kelsey and [someone else, let's say Soren Thompson] got immediate byes to the 2nd day. Ben Bratton was #2 seed (actually 18th, since the top-16 seeds get auto byes) with a 5-1 record out of the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RITFencing
    Does entry to all of these still need to be handled through the USFA?
    To the US world cups, yes.

    To the Canadian world cups, no.

    -B
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    Really? I thought all world cup entry had to be done through a country's NGB?

    Is this a rule change or was I just wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RITFencing
    Really? I thought all world cup entry had to be done through a country's NGB?

    Is this a rule change or was I just wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by USFencing International Programs website
    4/6/06 - Vancouver News:

    Because the Senior Vancouver World Cups for Men's Epee, Men's Foil, Women's Epee, Women's Sabre are all only individual competitions, no Grand Prix events (no teams), registration will be done directly through the Canadian Fencing Federation, with no limit to the number of US fencers. The info and online registration is available at http://www.pbinternational.ca/register.html.

    Fencers will need a current FIE license and all FIE equipment. Your name and country abbreviation (USA) must be on the back of your jacket or lame, and if you make the 64 (2nd day of competition) you must have the country colors on both legs.
    Canada has very lenient rules to help boost participation.

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    Thanks a lot, Brad; as always you're a font of useful info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fencerbill
    Results are up, under Media.

    http://pbinternational.ca/
    Check the date.

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    my bad, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oiuyt
    Canada has very lenient rules to help boost participation.

    -B
    Should be noted that only North American fencers register directly - fencers from other countries must enter through their national fencing organizations.

    Special FIE rules apply to fencers on continents other than Europe who want to fence in World Cups (note the difference between World CUP and World CHAMPIONSHIP) on those same continents. It's all in the Athlete's Handbook, after you read it you'll still have lots of unanswered questions, and you'll find that what they say there is not the whole story, Corinne Greenman has quite a few answers and she'll refer you to people who have the answers she doesn't have. And you thought NATIONAL fencing was confusing...you ain't seen nothin' yet!

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