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Old 07-04-2001, 06:54 AM   #21
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Mango, how wrong are you. Read some new Science Fiction, especially the hard science based stuff. I can heartily recommend Ken Macleod, he's from the same area in Scotland as me and writes good Scince Fiction tinged with politics.

Star Trek is NOT science fiction it's space opera!
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True dat!

Star Trek is cool, but it has too many hidden political messages to ever be called Sci-Fi. It's more like a re-education vehicle.

Metachlorians, Midichrolians? Oooh! Iwould like to smack George Lucas across the back of the head with a Jar-Jar full of Binks!
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Ok, I have to admit I thought the first Star Trek was completely hysterical. My favorite has to be the movie Generations.
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Old 07-06-2001, 07:20 AM   #25
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To baldly go. (Patrick Stewart and the Big Black dude in D.S.9.... What is it with bald captains)? They are all cool Even Janeway. (yes.. I'm sure it's a wig.)

BUT...
The origional series' were the mutt's nuts. No moral stories. No computer generated effects. Just plastic scenery and phasers set on stun.

Then again, There's some nice totty in the newer vertions.

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The origional series' were the mutt's nuts. No moral stories. No computer generated effects. Just plastic scenery and phasers set on stun.
Huh? The entire series is a set of morality plays. They were more pronounced in the Classic era because general preachyness was more allowed in that era of production. it was a little more hidden by teh special effects and other story parts in TNG and DS9, but it's there.

As an example I'll throw out "Let This be Your Last Battlefield," with Frank Gorshin (the TV Batman's "Riddler") in the primary protagonist role. Remember him and his counterpart? The only differance between the two was that one guy was black on the right side and white on the left, and other guy's color scheme was reversed. They had such hatred for each other (each side of the civilazation, that is...the two characters were just representations of he entire population) that they destroyed themselves. You'll never find a more blatant treatise on the rank stupidity of racism episode anywhere on TV!

Not a moral story? That's what MADE Star Trek!


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Old 07-06-2001, 11:18 AM   #27
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Heh heh. I think you won that one, Purple Fencer!

I concede. lol

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Heh heh. I think you won that one, Purple Fencer!

I concede. lol


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I prefer Voyager/DS9 - they are like intellectual versions of Eastenders or Neighbours or Sunset Beach or something. I also used to be quite a Red Dwarf fan - any dwarfers here??
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I started liking DS9 around the 2 or 3 season. I can't really remember when...but the stories and character developments were getting better and better. I didn't and still don't like Voyager much. The ending of the final episode sucked. Now what's up with Enterprise?? So far I don't like what I see in the previews.
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DS9 got better when Worf showed up. This was th epoint when Avery Brooks, the big black bald dude( kinda sounds like me) woke up and started acting. Oh by Star trek had some true babes, major hotties: Kira, ro Tasha Yar ( s&m babes) Troi, Rand, Dax and that stunning dabo girl that married Quarks brother and the hottest of all the 1966-68 model Lt Uhura.
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Used to be a MAJOR Star Trek fan starting with TOS (yes, I watched the first series starting with the first episode!) and all the way through TNG, went to cons & was active on the old CompuServe Star Trek board (GO HOM-9). However, I lost interest part way through DS9 and never really watched Voyager, don't know why. Something about finishing grad school, probably.

I am also a major Patrick Stewart fan! I have seen him live (in his one-man shows & at a fan gathering or two) and he's just as attractive in person. My my my my.

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