05-15-2006, 07:53 AM
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#1 | | Super Shoebie
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| American Fencing League - Comments, questions, observations?
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I don't see that anyone's discussed this organization... (I did check). I just discovered it because there's a salle fairly nearby that is hosting tournaments... | 
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05-15-2006, 08:54 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by chefencer American Fencing League
I don't see that anyone's discussed this organization... (I did check). I just discovered it because there's a salle fairly nearby that is hosting tournaments... | Are you trolling for a fight or are you seriously unaware of what this is? Sort of like going to a forum for Child Protective Services and asking if anyone knows much about joining Nambla... 
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05-15-2006, 09:03 AM
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#3 | | Admin
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Originally Posted by chefencer American Fencing League
I don't see that anyone's discussed this organization... (I did check). I just discovered it because there's a salle fairly nearby that is hosting tournaments... | Given that they are brand new, have no information on the number of members their "national" organization has and that all of their procedural rules and season mirror the USFA's, I'd say that it will be about the same as the USBL is to the NBA.
In looking at their FAQ and membership application/benefits they've pretty much copied the USFA member benefits - not something I would do if I were starting a complimentary or competing organization.
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05-15-2006, 09:07 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| Hee. Hahahaha. "Standard" fencing. "Post-Modern" fencing. Hahahahahaha. I feel like these guys have been listening to too many politicians.
And, as a humanities graduate student, I love the idea of Post-Modern fencing. What weapon do you think Foucault would use? Or Derrida? It does give a new twist to guessing what weapon non-fencers would use - they're always already fencers!
Whee! Pomo fencing! This has totally made my day. | |
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05-15-2006, 09:31 AM
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#5 | | Super Shoebie
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer Are you trolling for a fight or are you seriously unaware of what this is? Sort of like going to a forum for Child Protective Services and asking if anyone knows much about joining Nambla... | No trolling necessary, as it was new to me, I thought I would share... and then duck out of the way...
I do love a good brawl... but don't harbor any animus towards the classicals.
I DO think qatet's post is hilarious... | |
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05-15-2006, 09:42 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| I had not heard of this organization earlier. I have, however, heard of Nick Evangelista. The web site does not mention him, but I would think that he would want to be a part of this.
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05-15-2006, 12:45 PM
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| I can see where this might ber popular with some fo the older saber fencers who nerver got over the loss of the fleche. In fact Dry saber was probably more fun, certainly more DRAMA involved.
Dry epee, well, I'd rather do home dentistry......
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05-15-2006, 01:35 PM
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#8 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by qatet Hee. Hahahaha. "Standard" fencing. "Post-Modern" fencing. Hahahahahaha. I feel like these guys have been listening to too many politicians.
And, as a humanities graduate student, I love the idea of Post-Modern fencing. What weapon do you think Foucault would use? Or Derrida? It does give a new twist to guessing what weapon non-fencers would use - they're always already fencers!
Whee! Pomo fencing! This has totally made my day. | The referee doesn't reconstruct the action, he deconstructs it. | 
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05-15-2006, 01:41 PM
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#9 | | Fencing Expert
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| From the FAQ: Quote: Can I compete in the Olympic Games by way of the American Fencing League?
No, not directly. Olympic fencing uses post-modern rules. Post-modern fencing is a different game with different rules and different objectives -- a game that branched off from standard fencing gradually during the the 1970s and 80s. While there is quite a bit of overlap between the two branches of the sport, ultimately American fencers who wish to compete in the Olympics will need to fence extensively (to put it mildly) in the USFA and internationally in order to qualify for the Olympics.
| Heh.
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05-15-2006, 03:54 PM
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#10 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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a game that branched off from standard fencing gradually during the the 1970s and 80s.
| I like that perspective. It should like the way Ivy League graduates think. | |
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05-15-2006, 04:34 PM
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| The USFA and FIE use post modern rules?
Modern Characteristic or expressive of recent times or the present, contemporary or up-to-date; a modern lifestyle, a modern way of thinking
Why do a group of fencers think that standard fencing, which has been obsolete for half a century, is "modern" and electric fencing "post modern"?
And yes, I know that sabre has been fenced electric for less than 20 years, but epee has been electric for +70 years.
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05-15-2006, 04:46 PM
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#12 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| Electric fencing is old school. We need to move to fibre-optics. | |
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05-15-2006, 04:53 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK Electric fencing is old school. We need to move to fibre-optics. | Wireless. And instead of red and green lights a hologram of a fencer showing where they got hit!
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05-15-2006, 05:10 PM
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| I was expecting to see Dr. Lutz's name on the masthead. 
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P.S. I wish them well. Not exactly my cup of tea, but -- hey -- it isn't like extreme skateboarding or some such other "made up" sport. | |
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05-15-2006, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chefencer American Fencing League
I don't see that anyone's discussed this organization... (I did check). I just discovered it because there's a salle fairly nearby that is hosting tournaments... | Color me confused
Hah, I'm awesome.
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05-15-2006, 11:16 PM
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#16 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK Electric fencing is old school. We need to move to fibre-optics. | Hey, slow down. We've only been in the Post-Modern era for a few decades. Are we really ready for a Post-Post-Modern Era?
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05-16-2006, 12:52 AM
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#17 | | Just Joined
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| Having met Mr. Heggen I can say that he's pretty open minded about fencing and doesn't take himself to seriously. I know that quiet a few fencers in the area, myself included have gone down to fence one of his one-touch epee tournaments and have had a good time. Would I want to walk into the next NAC or Summer Nationals and have a dry one touch epee tournament? Hell no. But once or twice a year it's fun to gather up a couple of friends, some practice epee's and go try to hit each other so hard that even the judges can see it. | |
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05-16-2006, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank Pratt Hey, slow down. We've only been in the Post-Modern era for a few decades. Are we really ready for a Post-Post-Modern Era? | Let's get the lexicon right. Classical fencing will become equivalent to cavemen beating each other with clubs, "standard" will become classical, post modern will become standard, and post-post-modern will be post-modern.
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05-16-2006, 02:10 AM
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#19 | | Senior Member
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| Eh, AFL sounds post-modern to me. Modern fencing uses chalk and vinegar, the fools! Corrupting fencing, this new lot!
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05-16-2006, 05:15 AM
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#20 | | Super Shoebie
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs | I bow to your prowess... plus I didn't think to search with the words all scrunched together... | |
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