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Old 05-10-2006, 05:12 AM   #1
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Combination 500g/750g/Lame Test Weight

I am looking for a combination 500 / 750g weight and lame tester, hopefully for a reasonable price. At southeast sectionals, they had some very nice weights where the 250g weight popped onto the 500g weight/lame tester. I have also seen those where unscrewing the 250g weight reveals a screw with a round tip for testing lames. I cannot seem to find either online.

All I have found online are those from Sword Masters. While they look very nice, ~115USD is a little more than I was hoping to spend.

-Doug
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Hi!


Your homework project:

Take an empty 0.5 liter plastic soda bottle. Cut off a piece of PVC tubing, large enough to fit a blade and the same length as the bottle. Drill a hole in bottom of the bottle. Push in the PVC tube in the hole from below, so that its top is close to the neck of the bottle. Pour in correct amount of sand into the bottle so that the total weight is 500 or 750 g. Push the tube up so that its top is snug against the inner surface of the bottle cap. Use meltglue to fix the PVC tube to the edge of the hole in the bottom, and just below the inside of the bottle cap in the top. Put meltglue on the male threads of the bottle neck, and screw on the bottle cap while the meltglue is still liquid. Repeat for next weight.

Total price: not much.


Have a nice time!

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Very cool, Peter - but not much use for testing lames
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I am looking for a combination 500 / 750g weight and lame tester, hopefully for a reasonable price. At southeast sectionals, they had some very nice weights where the 250g weight popped onto the 500g weight/lame tester. I have also seen those where unscrewing the 250g weight reveals a screw with a round tip for testing lames. I cannot seem to find either online.

All I have found online are those from Sword Masters. While they look very nice, ~115USD is a little more than I was hoping to spend.

-Doug
Here you go:

1. http://sword-masters.com/catalog/pro...roducts_id=180
2. http://triplette.com/catalog/product...roducts_id/216

Both above are a single test weight that can perform test for Foil/Epee & Lame tests as an all in one.


Let me know if this is the one you were looking for.

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Old 05-10-2006, 11:40 AM   #5
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Technically the Triplette is not legal, because it is not made of copper or brass (M.28(a)), but it is one of those rules that 'Who Cares!'

I have made what you are looking for by starting with a brass Priur weight, threading a 5/16 hole in the top and using a 5/16" in threaded stock that I have ground down and rounded. I check the weight and drill or add to get it withing 1/10 gram.
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earlier this year, the Smith team was cleaning/sorting/recording the contents of our lockers. someone found a modified water bottle, and (sadly) i didn't recognize it immediately. Telk did however- it was a lame tester, since the weight of the water in the water bottle (whatever size it was) was perfect automatically. Or something like that. I've seen them extensively in the northeast. i mean, clearly i can't remember anything more than that--- but it looked rediculously easy to make at the time, so..... yeah.

Anyone?
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earlier this year, the Smith team was cleaning/sorting/recording the contents of our lockers. someone found a modified water bottle, and (sadly) i didn't recognize it immediately. Telk did however- it was a lame tester, since the weight of the water in the water bottle (whatever size it was) was perfect automatically. Or something like that. I've seen them extensively in the northeast. i mean, clearly i can't remember anything more than that--- but it looked rediculously easy to make at the time, so..... yeah.

Anyone?
Sounds like a Bill Hall special to me.
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it was a lame tester, since the weight of the water in the water bottle (whatever size it was) was perfect automatically.
This is why half-liter bottles are used for this purpose. The test weight for lamés is 500g. Allows one to travel with an easy-to-use testing device without having to carry the extra ~pound in your luggage (assuming, of course, that water is easily obtainable in most locations where fencing would take place).

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Here you go:

1. http://sword-masters.com/catalog/pro...roducts_id=180
2. http://triplette.com/catalog/product...roducts_id/216

Both above are a single test weight that can perform test for Foil/Epee & Lame tests as an all in one.


Let me know if this is the one you were looking for.

Gary Spruill
Thanks for the suggestions, the Triplette one looks good and right in my price range. The metal rule makes no difference to me--It will just be for testing personal and club lames.

Unless anyone has a better suggestion or anything else to say about that particular weight, I will probably pick it up.

Thanks everyone all the input.

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Don't accept the marks on the weights as the true weight. Go directly to your nearest High School or College and weigh it. I would say this no matter what weight you bought. I even found an Uhlmann weight slightly out of specs and they are normally the most consistant.

When using it as a Foil or Epee weight add a few quarters on top. Not only will this make sure the weapon will pass on the strip, you'll have some change in an emergency.
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