05-10-2006, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Jeebus Nuh Uhn! Organic means something contains carbon, with a slightly stricter definition being that it must also contain oxygen, and hydrogen!  | Actually, "organic" in scientific terms means something based off of hydocarbon chains with oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorous and sulfur as other primary ingredients.
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05-10-2006, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RITFencing Actually, "organic" in scientific terms means something based off of hydocarbon chains with oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorous and sulfur as other primary ingredients. | And I suspect that gtmac's strawberries qualify.
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05-10-2006, 12:39 AM
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| Well yeah, but initially he qualified them as organic implying that there's such a thing as inorganic strawberries...
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05-10-2006, 01:53 AM
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| If a large amount of inorganic fertilizers and pesticides were used, then the composition of the berries would be different. I'm not sure exactly where the line is scientificially, but as far as good grocers are concerned, that stuff no longer qualifies as organic.
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05-10-2006, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by epeeisky Just in case you were not being sarcastic, organic means no pesticides or things of that nature. | Actually it doesn't. It means that members of organic schemes cannot use certain types of pesticides, fertilisers and the like. Some of the ideas that Advocates of such schemes propose have merit, but they are invariably guilty of the naturalistic fallacy. A better definition would be to say that "Organic" advocates subscribe to a "be nice" policy toward the countryside. As an aside: I can't speak for the US, but in the UK farmers are invariably Organic producers because there is financial incentive for them to be that way - not because they believe in the philosophy.
By the way I also hate the misuse of the term organic to somehow indicate good, or better, for you. Same as I do not like the fact that food products labelled as containg "no artificial" ingredients/preservatives/additives, to imply better for you, when they invariably contain a number of elements that still make them bad for you. The food industry is good at deception. I know - I currently work for them - albeit in an IT sense.
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05-10-2006, 09:57 AM
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| Are you being grumpy today Gav? 
It's ok sweetie, I'll share some of my strawberries with you.... | |
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05-10-2006, 10:02 AM
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| Gav's always grumpy, especially when he's on the piste. It goes with being Scottish and a fencer.
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05-10-2006, 10:11 AM
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| I'm a fencer with Scottish heritage, who's grumpy on the piste a lot. Does that count? | |
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05-10-2006, 10:12 AM
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| Another honorary Scot on the boards, brilliant  
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05-10-2006, 11:12 AM
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| Ooooh! I can be a honorary Scot?!?!?! Awesome. I did have a Scottish wedding ceremony, and gave my son a scottish middle name. I'm so honored! | |
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05-10-2006, 11:19 AM
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| Glad to brighten up someone's day.
Of course, to celebrate, you'll have to get drunk in true Scottish tradition (though picking a fight with someone else is optional)
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05-10-2006, 11:25 AM
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| I'm ALWAYS up for getting drunk! Do I have to drink Scotch? | |
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05-10-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by fencergal33 I'm ALWAYS up for getting drunk! Do I have to drink Scotch? | Not if you don't want to. As long as plenty of alcohol is involved, it's fine. 
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05-10-2006, 12:17 PM
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| I am so there......I've been meaning to get back to Scotland you know. | |
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05-10-2006, 12:21 PM
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| Both my maiden and married names are Scottish (although I suppose my hubby can claim to be more Scottish than I).... anyway.... I want to use this as a feeble excuse to get drunk too! Which I believe is very Scottish!
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05-10-2006, 12:28 PM
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| I'm sure you'll find a way of managing it, FG.
PS, who wants to see a photo of a drunken Scotsman?
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05-10-2006, 12:32 PM
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| Sure... it's early enough in the morning here... I need something to wake me up.
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05-10-2006, 12:34 PM
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| Here you go. Don't have a clue when this was taken, or indeed who the drunk is, but it's amusing in a worrying kind of way.
EDIT: I was gonna post one of me drunk, but you guys deserve far better than that
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05-15-2006, 06:51 PM
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| Sorry to invade here with my humble presence, however I would like to point out that I am willing to bump non-epeeists off the first page if all of you honorable epeeists will rep me and allow me to be the servant, feeding the cherries, in this forum. | |
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05-15-2006, 07:50 PM
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| HARLOT!!!....ehhh ok maybe a bit much, but really do you think that simply engratiating yourself to true elitist snobs would even remotely gain you respect in their ranks? Ha, that's oh so very N.O.C.D. , how drole.
For the record that's Not Out Class Darling (Dahhliiing)
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