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Old 04-12-2001, 04:09 PM   #21
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I'm tellin you it's a great article! www.geocities.com/strydermike/vf1.html
Comeon, do you know how long it took to scan it and upload it? All for you!
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What's with the guy who has his jacket open? The picture for the article is . . interesting. I bet the guys at my club would like it

I like the site, its got heaps of good links, although it could be a little less cluttered.

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Old 04-17-2001, 04:53 AM   #23
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I'm sure the photographer asked Nick to open his jacket, and not wear a T shirt. And yes, Cliff would look better with a shirt on.

This is the main reason fencing will never be on TV in America. No skin.
No matter how skilled an athlete is, he will never make prime time unless he or she is seen as sexy. And that means partially naked.

"..the guys in my club.." ???

Is your club in San Francisco?
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Stryder and others,
Those photos were taken by A. Lebowitz-
They are all planned poses rather then chance shots. Ms. Lebowitz took photos of most of the atlanta olympians before the 96 games- all were compiled into a book that is often found in the bargin bin's at borders!!
Just to shed a little more light on the photos.
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No, i'm in Australia. Why do you think I'm from San francisco? Just wondering
I don't think many fencers would want to show too much skin - it would definately become a blood sport. That would help the popularity of fencing though
Someone told me of fencers who, instead of masks, fenced with goggles, and actually aimed for the face. I don't know if it's true or not.

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It's a German sport called schlager. It used to involve movement, but now doesn't -- you stand extremely close, backing up is a symbol of cowardice, and scars are supposedly a symbol of big cojones...or something.

Surely there's somebody more qualified to speak about this; after my first concussion in kendo in high school, I went back to a civilized sport...hockey.

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I thought that schlagerplay originally allowed dodging, and it was only since the mid-1800s that movement was disallowed, prompting the semi-famous quote from Otto von Bismarck: "In my time, blades were parried with steel, not one's face."

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You said the guys at your club would like it" I assumed you were still talking about the picture of the guy with his jacket open.
San Francisco is where we send all of our homosexuals. (At least we did until someone left the door unlocked and they all got "out")

It's a joke people! No flames from SFO please!
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Stryder - I was talking about the girls clustered around the guy with his jacket open. Although I do have some worries about some of my club members.

Darius - my dad does kendo and the worst he's gotten is a bruised and swollen nose where a beginner hit him. how did you get a concussion?

What an interesting sport. Sounds very macho though. I wouldn't want to do it, but I'd like to watch it.

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