04-23-2006, 04:40 PM
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| NCAA Eligibility I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not taking college classes while in high school would affect NCAA eligibility. The college where I would be taking the course does not have a team (though they may have a club, but I'm not sure), but I'd heard a rumor that even taking classes at a community college can affect eligibility. If anyone knew I would appreciate the help. And yes I have looked on the website but haven't found anything conclusive. |
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04-23-2006, 05:45 PM
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| It does not hurt your eligibility, as long as you don't take enough classes to be considered a full time college student.
Having taken college classes in high school (and most likely at the same college that you're planning to take them at), it posed no problems for ncaa eligibility.
You should not be worried. |
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04-24-2006, 01:42 AM
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| NCAA eligibility starts with matriculation, which should not occur as long as you are a student at your high school. |
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04-24-2006, 03:43 PM
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| i know at least one other athlete at the same NCAA school that prototoast is at that took classes at a college during high school and was fine.
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04-24-2006, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint i know at least one other athlete at the same NCAA school that prototoast is at that took classes at a college during high school and was fine. | So basically what we've collectively confirmed is that as long as she does everything exactly like me, she'll be just fine? |
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04-24-2006, 05:26 PM
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| From the NCAA division I handbook Quote:
14.2.1 Five-Year Rule. A student-athlete shall complete his or her seasons of participation within five
calendar years from the beginning of the semester or quarter in which the student-athlete first registered
for a minimum full-time program of studies in a collegiate institution, with time spent in the armed services,
on official church missions or with recognized foreign aid services of the U.S. government being
excepted. For foreign students, service in the armed forces or on an official church mission of the student’s
home country is considered equivalent to such service in the United States.
14.2.1.1 Determining the Start of the Five-Year Period. For purposes of starting the count of time
under the five-year rule, a student-athlete shall be considered registered at a collegiate institution
(domestic or foreign; see Bylaw 14.02.3) when the student-athlete initially registers in a regular term
(semester or quarter) of an academic year for a minimum full-time program of studies, as determined
by the institution, and attends the student’s first day of classes for that term (see Bylaw 14.2.2).
| She'll be fine, without any threat to eligibilty.
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04-24-2006, 05:26 PM
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| The only restriction of sorts put on you during high school by the NCAA is that you have to take a certain number of courses from different subjects (4 english, 3 math, etc.) As long as you have those courses you're cool. It doesn't matter if you come in to school with 50 hours of credit, as long as you're a high school student those college classes don't affect eligibility.
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04-24-2006, 05:27 PM
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| Yeah... what the rulebook said.
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04-24-2006, 06:28 PM
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| Except that actaully the earlier post that mentioned not taking enough credits to be full time has some credence I believe...if you're taking more than 2 classes at an actual 4 yr institution and it adds up to the the 12semester hour (or equivalent quarter hours) that make you full time I think you're in trouble.
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04-24-2006, 06:47 PM
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| Thanks everyone. Just checking because a fencer I know told me that someone they knew had taken a couple of community college classes and then had to sit out for a season because of eligibility. However they were obviously misinformed. Thanks for the clarification. |
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04-24-2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by prototoast So basically what we've collectively confirmed is that as long as she does everything exactly like me, she'll be just fine? |
are you saying you don't want her to apply to brown?
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04-24-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamer90024 Thanks everyone. Just checking because a fencer I know told me that someone they knew had taken a couple of community college classes and then had to sit out for a season because of eligibility. However they were obviously misinformed. Thanks for the clarification. | I was not misinformed. He was homeschooled, however, so that might have complicated things. |
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04-24-2006, 07:36 PM
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| There are times I'm really glad I fenced for a club team! NCAA rules and regulations are way to complicated and can be rather silly and arbitrary.
That being said as long as your high school still considers you a full time student, and you aren't a full time student at the community college you will be fine. |
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04-24-2006, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by prototoast So basically what we've collectively confirmed is that as long as she does everything exactly like me, she'll be just fine? | But I would have to know what you did to figure that out. Quote: |
Originally Posted by telkanuru I was not misinformed. He was homeschooled, however, so that might have complicated things. | Okay, so you weren't misinformed, but I had forgotten that you'd mentioned he was homeschooled, if you did. Also I believe that you recommended that I check the regulations because there was a possibility it could affect me. So you know that's what I was doing, checking. |
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04-25-2006, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamer90024 But I would have to know what you did to figure that out. | Well, piecing together information from this thread, "what I did" was take college classes at UMass while in high school, and then went on to Brown without any loss of eligibility.
I guess, just to sweeten the deal, you should play in the Amherst lsse softball league over the summer. |
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04-25-2006, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by prototoast Well, piecing together information from this thread, "what I did" was take college classes at UMass while in high school, and then went on to Brown without any loss of eligibility.
I guess, just to sweeten the deal, you should play in the Amherst lsse softball league over the summer. | While I won't deny the fact that I am considering Brown, I will not be taking any classes at UMass as UMass costs tons of money and Amherst is free. As to softball... well let's just say there's a reason I chose a sport that doesn't involve having to throw, catch, or hit a ball. |
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04-25-2006, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamer90024 While I won't deny the fact that I am considering Brown, I will not be taking any classes at UMass as UMass costs tons of money and Amherst is free. As to softball... well let's just say there's a reason I chose a sport that doesn't involve having to throw, catch, or hit a ball. | was it because of the potential sexual innuendos?
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04-25-2006, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint was it because of the potential sexual innuendos? | You know, I figured someone was going to say that, but honestly it's too late for me to care. No, it wasn't, but I guess that's a reason for me to keep from discussing it in the future. There are also many other ways I could have phrased it which would have opened the door much wider. |
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