HOM Glove review

[Purple Fencer]

I know someone must have already asked this but are you going to be in Sacramento, or is anyone with a sample going to be in Sacramento b/c I'd like to actually see/try the glove myself. It looks like it has a lot of potential but considering I've only ever found maybe 3 makes of glove to be competition worthy I wouldn't be able to tell without actually trying one.

Nope...I don't do NACs...too expensive, and I don't have enough unique gear to make it worthwhile to fight the big guys.

I sent a copy of the glove to Matthew Porter at Am Fencers, but I don't know if he's back from Jr Worlds yet, so he probably hasn't seen it.

[Inquartata]

Dye one process...print...compeltly different...to dye fabric it is heated to a extremly high temp to "set" the dye.... Dyneema I believe melts due to the higher polyester thread count...

But I could be wrong...


Rick Shellhouse

Note that I didn't contradict Purple Fencer, I said Dyneema can be colored, not that there had to be a viable dye process. Even if you had to do it with the same paint Marx Enterprises uses, you could still color a glove. Rather than stencilling you'd just paint the whole thing...

[Ordway]

I'm going to be testing one out (I've been having serious problems with hits to the hand, so I need to try *something* different) and I'll post a review after I've had a chance to give it a good try.

[Purple Fencer]

I'm going to be testing one out (I've been having serious problems with hits to the hand, so I need to try *something* different) and I'll post a review after I've had a chance to give it a good try.

Shipping label's done....you should have it Tuesday.

[Rick Shellhouse]

Note that I didn't contradict Purple Fencer, I said Dyneema can be colored, not that there had to be a viable dye process. Even if you had to do it with the same paint Marx Enterprises uses, you could still color a glove. Rather than stencilling you'd just paint the whole thing...

I didnt mean to imply you had contradicted him...lol...I was just trying to explain what the issue was with Dyneema is all...


Rick

[Purple Fencer]

Heck...I'm just glad the postings have kept the glove on the front page!!

Looking forward to hearing from you, Rick...

[Schiavona]

A left-handed model, Sam?

[bigdawg2121]

A left-handed model, Sam?

Here-here to that!

[KD5MDK]

Left handed, sabre, Armor 800 model!

[Purple Fencer]

Left-handed are in stock....and the sabre model of the 800 will come out eventually....it's all in the works.

[telkanuru]

As another french-gripper, I'm against any and all sticky stuff on my glove, as I need to be able to shift the grip around in my hand during a bout (yes, that's legal). I'm currently very much liking the $10 Absolute washable glove for this reason. I understand diversity means added cost, but I'd love a glove with extra padding (nevermined my unbridled anticipation of an 800N model).

[veeco]

Also, unless the label is there for a particular reason, I would recommend against putting the label on the back of the hand, and hide it in the cuff. I think that this big label on the back of the hand doesn't look right...

But it's only a personal opinion...

[Purple Fencer]

Also, unless the label is there for a particular reason, I would recommend against putting the label on the back of the hand, and hide it in the cuff. I think that this big label on the back of the hand doesn't look right...

But it's only a personal opinion...

That's because of how the sabre version will be made, since it means the addition of the lame on top of the existing cuff (thus, they're the same glove in terms of fit and protection). This means, if I put in a large order to my maker, he doesn't have to remember to put the label on the inside of the cuff if it's a sabre glove, and on the outside for foil/epee. A standard location also means less chance of putting the label on top of the lame material.

If I see a problem with the label catching the point, I'll have it moved.

[veeco]

Yes, but you can put the label _inside_ the cuff. This solves the sabre problem and the label on the back of the hand problem.

[prototoast]

Yes, but you can put the label _inside_ the cuff. This solves the sabre problem and the label on the back of the hand problem.

I don't particularly like the label there either, but it shouldn't take more than about 20 seconds to cut it off.

[Purple Fencer]

I figured I'd experiment...like you said, I can always move it.

[Ordway]

I just got the glove in the mail and have some first impressions. (Our club doesn't have practice this week - darn rec center schedules! - so I'll have to wait until next week to actually test it out fully.)

The fabric feels sturdy and the overall glove feels well made, not "poofy" like some I've tried on.

As I expected, the fingers are a little bit shorter than I'd like (in both the 7.5 and the 8... the larger size was wider across the palm but did not have longer fingers.) So in that sense it does not fit as well as the Uhlmann, which is the only glove I've tried that actually has fingers long enough for me. OTOH, the thumb length is perfect, in fact better than the Uhlmann, whose thumb is too short. So, about even here.

The extra padding looks VERY promising. It is firm without being puffy, and it is surprisingly flexible. I actually compared it not only to my ratty in-progress Uhlmann glove (which is flexible as a wet noodle now) but also to a brand-new Uhlmann that I have waiting in the wings. The new Uhlmann is actually less flexible across the hand than this glove! Even though the padding is much wimpier.

The extra square of heavier padding in the back of the hand is not really noticeable at all in terms of flexibility. Knowing that, I would actually wish for it to extend further out to the seam at the side of the hand (i.e. to the non-thumb edge of the hand.)

The grippy surface is much better than I expected. I still think I'd prefer a non-grippy surface, but I'll report back on that after I've fenced with it. In any case, this grippy is the nicest I've seen. It's a mesh pattern, and it's grippy but NOT sticky. It is much better IMO than the little dots, and I suspect that it will not wear off nearly as quickly as the little dots.

The purple color is kind of cool, actually. Is the glove machine washable? I admit that I do not want to purple-ify the rest of my clothing... I don't like where the tag is, though.

So, as I said, I still need to test it out in practice, but I am liking it a lot already. If it just had the fingers a LITTLE bit longer I would be over the moon.

[Purple Fencer]

As I expected, the fingers are a little bit shorter than I'd like (in both the 7.5 and the 8... the larger size was wider across the palm but did not have longer fingers.) So in that sense it does not fit as well as the Uhlmann, which is the only glove I've tried that actually has fingers long enough for me. OTOH, the thumb length is perfect, in fact better than the Uhlmann, whose thumb is too short. So, about even here.

Noted...I found that my maker's original samples were too long in the fingers, so I asked him to shorten them...a touch too much apparently...easy fix.

The extra padding looks VERY promising. It is firm without being puffy, and it is surprisingly flexible. I actually compared it not only to my ratty in-progress Uhlmann glove (which is flexible as a wet noodle now) but also to a brand-new Uhlmann that I have waiting in the wings. The new Uhlmann is actually less flexible across the hand than this glove! Even though the padding is much wimpier.

The extra square of heavier padding in the back of the hand is not really noticeable at all in terms of flexibility. Knowing that, I would actually wish for it to extend further out to the seam at the side of the hand (i.e. to the non-thumb edge of the hand.)

I can probably have that done on the next run...as well as beef up that 2nd layer of padding (we were having a little tightness issue, so we went with a slightly thinner layer of padding. Still works well, but not as much as I'd like, so I'm goint to to back to the thicker 2nd layer)

The purple color is kind of cool, actually. Is the glove machine washable? I admit that I do not want to purple-ify the rest of my clothing... I don't like where the tag is, though.

Cold water in the machine, hang dry (don't want the heat of the water or the dryer shrinking the padding). if in doubt, wash with darks.

Label location was discussed in some of the above posts. I soppose the label COULD move to the inside of the cuff...the color pattern is unique enough.

So, as I said, I still need to test it out in practice, but I am liking it a lot already. If it just had the fingers a LITTLE bit longer I would be over the moon.

I'll letcha know, Holly!

Thanks! All the reviews and comments have been sent to my maker.

[Inquartata]

I haven't ever read the advertising standards section of the rules in depth. The label being where it is won't run afoul of those, will it?

Holly, for future reference you might want to look into a glove from American Fencers Supply. I have long fingers, and the American glove fingers are still too long for me. ( Mine is size 10 but I suspect it might be the same in other sizes. )

[Purple Fencer]

I haven't ever read the advertising standards section of the rules in depth. The label being where it is won't run afoul of those, will it?

Doubtful....there's no differance in an advertising sense between the back of the hand and the more typical back of the cuff....or in seeing maker labels in plain view on other clothing items.