04-09-2006, 01:45 AM
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| We Will Nuke Iran!!!
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The administration of President George W. Bush is planning a massive bombing campaign against Iran, including use of bunker-buster nuclear bombs to destroy a key Iranian suspected nuclear weapons facility, The New Yorker magazine has reported in its April 17 issue.
The article by investigative journalist Seymour Hersh said that Bush and others in the White House have come to view Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as a potential Adolf Hitler.
"That's the name they're using," the report quoted a former senior intelligence official as saying.
A senior unnamed Pentagon adviser is quoted in the article as saying that "this White House believes that the only way to solve the problem is to change the power structure in Iran, and that means war."
The former intelligence officials depicts planning as "enormous," "hectic" and "operational," Hersh writes.
One former defense official said the military planning was premised on a belief that "a sustained bombing campaign in Iran will humiliate the religious leadership and lead the public to rise up and overthrow the government," The New Yorker pointed out.
In recent weeks, the president has quietly initiated a series of talks on plans for Iran with a few key senators and members of the House of Representatives, including at least one Democrat, the report said.
One of the options under consideration involves the possible use of a bunker-buster tactical nuclear weapon, such as the B61-11, to insure the destruction of Iran's main centrifuge plant at Natanz, Hersh writes.
But the former senior intelligence official said the attention given to the nuclear option has created serious misgivings inside the military, and some officers have talked about resigning after an attempt to remove the nuclear option from the evolving war plans in Iran failed, according to the report.
"There are very strong sentiments within the military against brandishing nuclear weapons against other countries," the magazine quotes the Pentagon adviser as saying.
The adviser warned that bombing Iran could provoke "a chain reaction" of attacks on American facilities and citizens throughout the world and might also reignite Hezbollah.
"If we go, the southern half of Iraq will light up like a candle," the adviser is quoted as telling The New Yorker. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060408...uclearmilitary | 
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04-09-2006, 11:01 AM
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| Not sure how to interpret this.
Virtually all contingency plans consider the use of nuclear weapons. It is part of planning. Think about it, would a major military plan be complete without at least considering the conditions under which nuclear release would be granted?
However, planning is one thing and advocating is another. The story is just not clear enough. Is this a normal planning situation that has been dramatized for effect, or is it a scoop showing a change of policy and attitude toward these weapons?
I don't know. I hope it is the former situation.
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04-09-2006, 11:33 AM
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04-09-2006, 03:48 PM
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04-09-2006, 08:49 PM
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| The third Horseman is saddling up...
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04-10-2006, 12:29 AM
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| Hmm...has Dan Rather gone to work for The New Yorker? | |
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04-10-2006, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lochinvar The third Horseman is saddling up... | War, Famine, Pestilence, and Death -- normally in that order.
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04-10-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Feltan War, Famine, Pestilence, and Death -- normally in that order.
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Keep up with the times. Pestilence retired. Pollution got promoted to that horse.
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04-10-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Epee_Pox Keep up with the times. Pestilence retired. Pollution got promoted to that horse. | Don't sell H5N1 short, just yet... | |
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04-10-2006, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chefencer Don't sell H5N1 short, just yet... | Selling short? Heck, I've got put options on that one.
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04-12-2006, 10:59 PM
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| I was skeptical of this at first. Why would a President with a sub-40% approval rating continue policies that the public obviously dissaproves of?
But it's looking to be more and more accurate.
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04-13-2006, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs I was skeptical of this at first. Why would a President with a sub-40% approval rating continue policies that the public obviously dissaproves of? | He doesn't need the public's approval. He talks to God.
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04-13-2006, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lochinvar He doesn't need the public's approval. He talks to God. |
So do I. However I wouldn't let it worry you until he says God is talking back to him.
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04-13-2006, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Feltan So do I. However I wouldn't let it worry you until he says God is talking back to him. | Well, you better get out your Maalox, then, 'cause he's already said it.
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04-13-2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lochinvar Well, you better get out your Maalox, then, 'cause he's already said it. |
No, no, no.....he was talking about Karl Rove. He got confused again.
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04-15-2006, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Feltan No, no, no.....he was talking about Karl Rove. He got confused again. | Wait--God talks to Karl Rove?? I'm confused...
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04-15-2006, 04:11 PM
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| No, Karl Rove hides behind the arras and speaks to Bush when he prays. Bush only THINKS it's God. | |
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04-15-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata No, Karl Rove hides behind the arras and speaks to Bush when he prays. Bush only THINKS it's God. | That's funny; so does Karl.
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04-16-2006, 09:07 PM
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| Perhaps they're both right, then.  | |
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