04-07-2006, 02:34 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Getting coached at tournaments
Just curious: does your coach coach you at local tournaments? National tournaments? How do you work it out financially? | 
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04-07-2006, 03:45 PM
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#2 | | Fencing Expert
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Originally Posted by hello? Just curious: does your coach coach you at local tournaments? National tournaments? How do you work it out financially? | When she's available she does. At Summer Nationals last year we were both refereeing 8 days, she took her two days off on the same two I did (I was using them for my two events) in order to coach/support. No financial compensation.
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04-07-2006, 04:01 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| My coach fences in the same event as I, so when she's able she coaches me (usually not until DE's). She does this out of the goodness of her heart (no $ compensation).
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04-07-2006, 04:15 PM
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| Dominion Fencing uses these rules as a guideline. | |
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04-07-2006, 04:16 PM
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All bouts at Dominion Fencing are to be conducted in the spirit of a " . . . courteous encounter . . .".
| Does every courteous encounter have to have as many periods as yours?
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04-07-2006, 04:23 PM
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#6 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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Originally Posted by Allen Evans | The rest of it looks fine (including the rest of the paragraph involved here), but Quote: |
A coach has to pick his or her battles carefully in terms of influencing referees.
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04-07-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KD5MDK looks bad to me, written down. | Besides the fact that a mere two sentences later, there is a "coaches" where there should be a "coach's".
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04-07-2006, 08:06 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Allen Evans | Thanks for posting the link. I like policies that are clear and informative.
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04-12-2006, 08:17 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Fencergrl My coach fences in the same event as I, so when she's able she coaches me (usually not until DE's). She does this out of the goodness of her heart (no $ compensation). | What happens when you meet on the strip in the DEs? 
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04-12-2006, 08:22 PM
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#10 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| Sincere best wishes during the 1 minute break?
When I fenced a teammate during a round of 4 bout once, we each got 30s from our coach. | |
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04-12-2006, 08:42 PM
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#11 | | Friend of Fencing
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Originally Posted by Frank Pratt What happens when you meet on the strip in the DEs? | Quote: |
Originally Posted by KD5MDK Sincere best wishes during the 1 minute break?
When I fenced a teammate during a round of 4 bout once, we each got 30s from our coach. | A certain local club goes well beyond that. Every member and support personnel (coaches, parents, friends, spectating teammates, teammates on same strip, etc) are bound by a quasi-contractual agreement....
Basically when members of the same club face each other, EVERYONE walks away. No coaching, no advice, no friendly encouragement, no equipment support (i.e. borrow equipment, run over to vendor for replacement, etc), no throwing water bottle, nada. 
You just walk away and let them face the music on their own. Anything happens, it's their problem. These kids may be great friends otherwise, but when they face each other on strip, for the duration of the said bout they are there to defeat each other. And they are not allowed to forget it.
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04-12-2006, 08:59 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| At the collegiate level, there are two WS fencers who are sisters, who both fence for the same school. Now, I was busy doing other things, but a teammate of mine watched the two of them fencing the gold medal bout against each other, and apparently they gave each other advice.
i'm not sure how true it is... but it makes a good story.
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04-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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04-13-2006, 09:41 AM
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#14 | | Bitter young coach
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Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint apparently they gave each other advice. | I've been there. First DE I ever fenced was against one of my best friends, whom I had known since I was five years old. During the break we gave each other encouragement and advice. During the fencing we tried our best to win. It didn't seem incongruous at all.
For the record, I came out on top. 
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04-13-2006, 10:19 AM
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#15 | | Scavenger
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| Sometimes my coach is there, sometimes my other coach is there, sometimes another coach is there, sometimes a teammate is there, and sometimes no one is there. One of my coaches went with me to Veteran World Championships in Tampa last year, and the other happened to be there the previous time I was in Tampa. I prefer my main coach NOT to coach me on the strip because he gives advice I can't take, even though he has made me into the competitor I am today.
I've been known to coach an opponent at the break, but only in practice
Our club charges expenses and a coaching fee for national tournaments, which is put on our bill. It doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have a coach on strip--much of the time I don't need one, frankly--but our club is great about getting someone to the strip to offer advice like "breathe," "stay upright," and "don't get so complicated." We usually have a small whiteboard wherever our stuff is, so that we can write down where we are fencing.
I'm paying part of the travel expenses of one of my coaches to Bath, England, and he's paying the rest so he can have a nice vacation.
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04-13-2006, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Peach We usually have a small whiteboard wherever our stuff is, so that we can write down where we are fencing. | That is a great idea. Wish I had thought of it 
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04-13-2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rac That is a great idea. Wish I had thought of it | My thoughts exactly. And here I was using Very Loud Socks (tm) to achieve the same effect.
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04-13-2006, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Peach We usually have a small whiteboard wherever our stuff is, so that we can write down where we are fencing. |
That's brilliant.
Granted, in 90% of fencing senarios i find myself in, it's not a problem. but that's brilliant, and i'm suprised that of all the college students i hang out with, none of us have thought of that one.
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04-13-2006, 11:20 AM
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#19 | | Scavenger
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Originally Posted by Wafath My thoughts exactly. And here I was using Very Loud Socks (tm) to achieve the same effect.
W | At Summer Nationals, Very Loud Socks would not have quite the startling prominance they had at the Cherry Blossom, but they ARE quite impressive
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04-13-2006, 02:04 PM
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#20 | | Have Blazer, Will Travel
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| I think a coach that Peach would put up with would be smart enough to check the postings like a normal person, if their whiteboard was erased. | |
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