Homer Kids

[Josephine25]

I have to agree with RL on this issue, not only is it wrong it's also against nature. Homersexual people made the chocie to be gay and it's totally disgusting.

[melihop]

Originally Posted by Josephine25

I have to agree with RL on this issue, not only is it wrong it's also against nature. Homersexual people made the chocie to be gay and it's totally disgusting.

how can it be aginst nature.. if there are gay animals?

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by melihop

how can it be aginst nature.. if there are gay animals?

Those animals are defective and don't produce anything.

[melihop]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Those animals are defective and don't produce anything.

but.. they can raise other children.. if their parents die.. or won't raise them..... or are too stupid to do it themselves.....

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by melihop

but.. they can raise other children.. if their parents die.. or won't raise them..... or are too stupid to do it themselves.....

I want you to show me the proof. I have never heard of a homersexual animal rasing the offspring of another.

[achilleus]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

I want you to show me the proof. I have never heard of a homersexual animal rasing the offspring of another.

Voila!

And again...

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by achilleus

Voila!

And again...

Hey! I was askin the other guy!

[ReverseLunge]

The libs here can talk all they want. There is no one who would want their kid to turn out homersexual

[achilleus]

Oh and one more for you...

They all reference the penguins that incubated and raised a baby, but they each provide a little bit different information on the subject as a whole.

And yeah, I know you've heard of this before....

Sorry if I ruined your fun...

[ReverseLunge]

I don't see where is says they are doing anal sex. These birds are defective Though it is natural for male penguins to nurse and feed their offspring it's humans in this case who gave them the egg. The humans were probably homers trying to get animals to do unnatural things in order to say it's all right to be homer since penguins are homers too.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by PalmFrond

If sexuality is just learned behaviour, then how come straight parents raise gay kids?

Just keep the beaners from coming in and the homers from coming out and we'll all be OK.

[Josephine25]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

I don't see where is says they are doing anal sex. These birds are defective Though it is natural for male penguins to nurse and feed their offspring it's humans in this case who gave them the egg. The humans were probably homers trying to get animals to do unnatural things in order to say it's all right to be homer since penguins are homers too.

RL is right and it's against nature because God didn't make animals or humans that way, as one of my friends like to say, "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve."

[bmcfencer]

Someone once told me the difference between homophobia and racism was that no black kid ever got kicked out of his own family because of the color of his skin.

Why would anyone choose a "lifestyle" that a huge part of our population would hate them for? Why would anyone choose to be told that their god hates them because of who they love, that they are sinful and dirty and disgusting because the individuals they are attracted to might not be of the other gender? To be seen as alien and unnatural (that arguement always cracks me up. America is against anything un-natural! Right. Like space flight and nylon and forcing cows to be cannibalistic and electric lights and guns. All so natural. As opposed to one human being loving another and wanting to make a life with them, which clearly no one has ever done or should do).

One of my gay friends told me once he was really amused by questions about his "gay lifestyle". His life, in all it's mundane details, sounds prettymuch like everyone elses, if perhaps a little healthier than some, since he's in a committed deep-felt meaningful and extremely functional relationship with someone he will very probably spend the rest of his life with.

Not that all non-straight relationships are perfect. They are human relationships and romances subject to all the trials and tribulations that straight relationships and romances face. With occasionally the added joy of intense and painful bigotry thrown at them. I've seen what facing intense homophobia, especially from one's own family, can do to people.

Though I know a lot of amazing, strong, funny, caring people who don't identify as straight. Some things can either tear you apart or make you ultimately stronger. Sometimes you have to laugh at it all because there's just too much there to cry about and you can't wrap yourself around with grief.

Josephine25, you make my heart hurt.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Josephine25

RL is right and it's against nature because God didn't make animals or humans that way, as one of my friends like to say, "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve."

Jesus was openly gay.

"In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as 'the disciple whom Jesus loved'." 4 For example, during the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, he describes how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment. See John 13:25 and 21:20. Robert Goss, assistant professor of comparative religion at Webster University in St. Louis, LA, noted that Jesus and the beloved disciple: "... eat together, side by side. What's being portrayed here is a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger man. A Greek reader would understand." 5 Jesus appears to have loved all of his male and female followers in a close, trusting, non-erotic manner. However, the "beloved" disciple appears to be in a special relationship with Jesus; the disciple was "the" beloved. He was in a class by himself.

On the other hand: Some commentators have suggested that it was a common practice in Judea at that time for heterosexual man to lay his head on another's undergarment. Such behavior was common between two heterosexuals in an emotionally close but non-erotic relationship during the first century CE. 6
Jenny Stokes, research director for Saltshakers, a conservative Christian group in Australia, said that there are five words for love in Greek (the language in which the Gospels were written: Agape: spiritual, unconditional love,
Eros: erotic love,
Philia: love between friends,
Storge: familial love.

The Gospel references to "the disciple whom Jesus loved" use the word "agape." 3 Whether the authors originally used "eros" and the word was subsequently changed is open to speculation.


"Jagannath" interprets the Gospels differently. He argues that Jesus may have been bisexual. He wrote: "In the Book of John a word is used eight times that means 'is in love with' with the implication of sexual intimacy. Five times it is used with reference to Jesus' relationship with John. Once it is used to define Jesus' relationship with Lazarus. And it is also used to describe his relationship with Mary and with her sister Martha." 7
During the crucifixion, in John 19:26-28, Jesus is described as seeing his mother and an unidentified man: "the disciple standing by, whom he loved." Jesus probably loved all of his 12 or 70 disciples in a non-sexual manner. But this particular disciple is identified as "the" disciple who Jesus loved. That might indicate a special intimate relationship with one special disciple.
The late Morton Smith, of Columbia University reported in 1958 that he had found a fragment of a manuscript which at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem. It contained the full text of Mark, chapter 10. Apparently the version that is in the Christian Scriptures is an edited version of the original. Additional verses allegedly formed part of the full version of Mark, and were inserted after verse 34. It discusses how a young man, naked but for a linen covering, expressed his love for Jesus and stayed with him at his place all night. More details.
"J Richards" suggested that Mark 7:14-16 shows that Jesus approves of homosexual acts. The critical phrase reads: "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him..." Richards suggests that Jesus gave great emphasis to this teaching, directing it to everyone. Richards suggests that the sentence refers to dietary laws and also extends to "blood transfusions, medication, organ transplants, and artificial insemination" and to homosexual acts as well. 8

On the other hand, these words have historically been interpreted as overturning the Mosaic law about eating,
Rollan McCleary, was awarded his doctorate from the University of Queensland in Australia during 2003-MAY for his work researching the sexual orientation of Jesus and his disciples. He obtained about $33,000 US in funding from the government to finance his degree. He concluded that Jesus and at least three of his disciples were gay. He based this conclusion on excerpts from the Gospel of John and on Jesus' astrological chart based on the approximate year, month, day and place where he was born. Considering that many theologians have concluded that Jesus was born sometime in the Fall, between 4 and 7 BCE, it is difficult to understand how an accurate astrological chart can be prepared. Dr. McCleary told Australian Broadcasting Commission radio that, in the past, "one or two queer theologians" had attempted to show Jesus was gay. "People haven't taken them very seriously because they don't have any evidence and they say things so sensationally that people are not really going to listen or just be very angry. What I'm doing is showing a much more theological and also astrological dimension on all this which will make a lot more sense to people." 9 He has written a book based on his doctoral thesis which was published in 2004. 18
An anonymous webmaster wrote about a revelation that he received during her/his daily prayer and meditation: "Suddenly many aspects of the New Testament made sense. Jesus never married. He preached love, tolerance, and forgiveness of sins. He did not condemn and vilify as his so-called followers do today. He surrounded himself with men whom he loved. The Bible says nothing of Jesus' sexuality, yet we are taught that he was both divine and fully man. Why did he never marry? Why is the New Testament silent about his sexuality? It became so clear when I had the insight that Jesus was probably gay and that He understood hatred and bigotry first-hand." 10
Mark 14:51-52 describes the incident when Jesus was arrested by the religious police. It describes how one of Jesus' followers was scantily dressed. The King James Version says he had a linen cloth cast on his naked body; the size and location of the cloth is not defined. The New International Version says that he was "wearing nothing but a linen garment." When the police tried to seize him, they were able to grab only his cloth; the man ran away naked. Reverend Peter Murphy wrote: "We don't know from the sources what really was going on, but we do know that something was very peculiar between Jesus and young men." 11 (Emphasis in the original.)
Michael Kelly wrote of Jesus' attitude towards a same-sex couple as described in Matthew 8:5-13: and Luke 7:2: "One day a Roman Centurion asked him to heal his dying servant. Scholars of both Scripture and Ancient History tell us that Roman Centurions, who were not permitted to marry while in service, regularly chose a favorite male slave to be their personal assistant and sexual servant. Such liaisons were common in the Greco-Roman world and it was not unusual for them to deepen into loving partnerships....Jesus offered to go to the servant, but the centurion asked him simply to speak a word of healing, since he was not worthy to welcome this itinerant Jewish teacher under his roof. Jesus responded by healing the servant and proclaiming that even in Israel he had never found faith like this! So, in the one Gospel story where Jesus encountered people sharing what we would call a 'gay relationship,' we see him simply concerned about — and deeply moved by — their faith and love." Kelly implies that Jesus' sensitivity towards the gay couple might have arisen from his own bisexual or homosexual orientation. 1
Some commentators argue from silence. They note that there is no passage in the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) that directly describes anything about Jesus' sexuality. There are many direct and indirect references to Jesus' sensuality. He was accused of being a "drunkard and a glutton" and of partying with "prostitutes and sinners." He apparently enjoyed a tender foot massage from a woman. Yet, neither Jesus' sexuality nor his celibacy is mentioned. Yet, sex is referred to, elsewhere in the Bible, quite often. One might argue that the books in the Christian Scriptures might have once described Jesus' sexual relationships, but that these passages have been vigorously censored by the later church because they were unconventional.
Other commentators have noted that Jesus is silent towards homosexuality in the Gospels. Yet, Paul's opinions and those of many other authors in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) are clearly stated. They conclude that Jesus might have been gay himself. Odler Jeanlouie speculated: "Is it meaningful that, in the Sermon on the Mount, central to his teaching, he offered a one-way trip to the Kingdom of God, to anyone who is persecuted?" 12

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by bmcfencer

Josephine25, you make my heart hurt.

Josephine25, don't let her turn you. She is trying hard pervert your mind with her feminism. No matter what she says you know that it's one hotdog per bun. A hot dog can fit in a bun but a bun cannot fit into another bun.

[epeeisky]

Originally Posted by Josephine25

RL is right and it's against nature because God didn't make animals or humans that way, as one of my friends like to say, "God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve."

Just a little bit more of my faith in the human race dies...


If you look at nature, several wild species of animals express some sort of homosexual behaviour. Monkeys, penguins, and even humingbirds have been shown to have homesexual members in their communities. Going off your arguemnt that God created everything, and that he would not create and human or animal to be homosexual. Also, since humans alone have free choice, and animals are subject to their nature. Then how do these beings come to be homosexual.

[Grasshopper]

Well so far RL, your only support has come from a 14 year old bible-thumper from Jesusland. Maybe you could send her one of your complimentary "I Hate Therefore I Am" t-shirts! What drivel...

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Well so far RL, your only support has come from a 14 year old bible-thumper from Jesusland. Maybe you could send her one of your complimentary "I Hate Therefore I Am" t-shirts! What drivel...

Great....advice from Craphopper who abuses his rights in Japan. Hey Craphopper, Japanese women are for Japanese men. You are a white guy. Have you no resepct for their heritage? How would you like it if some unwelcomed foreigners came and started taking away your women?

[JackOfHearts]

Simpson! Homer simpson!
He's the greatest guy in History!!!!
From the town of Springfield!
He's about to hit a chestnut treeeee!

Hm? Oh, sorry. I just loved that song.

Anyways, I have no idea what a Homersexual is. Though this discussion seems to be on wether one believes a homosexual married couple should be allowed to adopt children or not. RL seems to think that this will lead to the end of civilization. I don't see how, but if he's willing to provide a logical explanation of his ideas, then I'd be willing to listen.

Frankly, I don't see why it should be different from any couple that's looking to adopt a child. They're gay. So what? OMG, IT'S SINFUL!!!! Say's who? GOD!!! Really? I'd better ask to make sure. I'll let you know if I get a reply from the man upstairs. Something tells me he wouldn't be against the idea of a loving couple coming together to raise a family.

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Because good parents usually avoid sex issues at home. When the kids go out in life they get subverted and molested by the homersexurals out in the streets.

Good parents avoid sex issues... I'm not a parent. Though I have never believed in security through obscurity. It just never works. If the parents are unwilling to discuss sexual issues frankly and maturely with their children, then of course they're going to pick up their views from their friends, television, or "out in the streets". It's up to the parents to make sure their children understand all aspects of a sexual relationship. Once that happens, then hopefully their kids are knowledgable enough to make the right choices when the time comes.