Stop The Killing

[VELISARIOS]

Over 300,000 baby seals will be clubbed or shot to death mercilessly during Canada's seal hunt this year; many will be skinned alive.

Canadian government officials insist that the seal hunt is a vital part of Canada's economy, yet in reality, the hunt accounts for less than one percent of Newfoundland’s GDP and an average of just $1,000 per sealer per year. Significant amounts of money are actually spent by Canada's government to promote the hunt and to develop new markets for seal products abroad.



http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...=78136&z00m=78

Please try to stop the killing with your signature, you have the power to do it.Just sign.

[Epee_Pox]

Do you object to the killing simply because they're so darn adorable? Or do you equally oppose the killing of all other animals for their hides?

As for me, I object to it strictly because they're cute. Don't have a logical reason.

[jBirch]

I'll preface this by saying that I'm a member of both Ducks Unlimited and the World Wildlife Fund and a past park ranger in Algonquin Provincial Park. My family have been conservationists for a very long time. My great-grandfather was Frank Kortright.

The Seal Hunt is an integral component of the economic lifeblood of much of Newfoundland's rural population. It adds about $16 million CAD to the fishermen with some earning up to a third of their income from sealing. I've been to that area and while $16 million doesn't sound like much, especially when divided amongst the 13,000 licenses (So ~$1,000 per license), the additional income is pretty much the only economic activity in the area at that time of year. Essentially, you either seal, or you quit fishing and get a job in the city. If you can't quit fishing, or you can't find a job in the city, and you can't seal, then you're likely to lose your house and be forced to live on the street. But it would have to be a city street because there would be no small towns in Newfoundland anymore. I'm really not kidding when I say that this is the only economic activity in that area this time of year.

The population of seals on the East Coast is about 5 million and the annual hunt quota is set at 325 thousand. The average price per pelt is $70. The cute little baby seals (called Whitecoats) are protected by law and it is illegal to hunt them.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/sealhunt/
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/media/infom...005/im01_e.htm
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...medid=12240525
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque...-rapport_e.htm

As an aside, this is the same group of people who took in some 13000 passengers during 9/11, with no notice and no compensation.

Please try to put a Newf in a cardboard box with your signature, you have the power to do it. Just sign.

James.

[Feltan]

Originally Posted by VELISARIOS

Over 300,000 baby seals will be clubbed or shot to death mercilessly during Canada's seal hunt this year; many will be skinned alive...

This rates as a big "so what" on today's care-o-meter.

How many heads of cattle will be slaughtered this year? How many fish will be caught and eaten? How many turkey's will end up on the Thanksgiving table? How many chickens will get turned into chicken mcnuggets?

What upsets you about seals? The clubbing? Just give the hunters high powered rifles and the seals will get killed quickly -- but I have a suspicion your objection is more than the mere method of killing them.

Regards,
Feltan

[rcmatthews]

Only baby seals too. No one can hunt the adults. That makes total sense.

[Epee_Pox]

Hey, what's wrong with being opposed based on mere cuteness? We protect dolphins because they're cute, we abhor eating doggies and kittens because they're cute, and we frown on eating horses because people who've never met one think they're cute. So why not cry out for the protection of these cuties as well? So what if it puts good people out of work, we put people out of work all the time to satisfy our morality, and it's not always a bad thing.

From a strictly utilitarian standpoint, if it is worth more to us as a society to feel good about stopping the killing of adult seals, more than we value the ability of a handful of kind Newfies to make a living off the seal harvest, then we should have no hesitation in banning the practice.

I still think they're too cute to kill. Aww, wook at dose adowable widdle eyes!

[Slim]

Yes, lets unite to wreck the lives of some people who have been doing this for centuries, and rely on it as a means to survive just to satisfy your need to feel better about yourself, without really understanding the bigger picture.

Why dont you find a cause closer to your home where you can actually see and appreciate the results of your actions, rather than attempt to impose your will on people you obviously know nothing about and have absolutely no contact with?

Originally Posted by VELISARIOS

Over 300,000 baby seals will be clubbed or shot to death mercilessly during Canada's seal hunt this year; many will be skinned alive.

Canadian government officials insist that the seal hunt is a vital part of Canada's economy, yet in reality, the hunt accounts for less than one percent of Newfoundland’s GDP and an average of just $1,000 per sealer per year. Significant amounts of money are actually spent by Canada's government to promote the hunt and to develop new markets for seal products abroad.



http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...=78136&z00m=78

Please try to stop the killing with your signature, you have the power to do it.Just sign.

[lochinvar]

Originally Posted by Feltan

What upsets you about seals? The clubbing? Just give the hunters high powered rifles and the seals will get killed quickly

The whole reason for clubbing them is so as not to ruin the pelt by putting holes in it.

So, no rifles. Or shotguns. Or spears. Or knives. Nope. Just a good ol' club to the head to smash their little skulls.

[Inquartata]

Come on, now, how can anyone be expected to muster any outrage over something that cannot be blamed on Bush?

[Feltan]

Originally Posted by lochinvar

The whole reason for clubbing them is so as not to ruin the pelt by putting holes in it.

So, no rifles. Or shotguns. Or spears. Or knives. Nope. Just a good ol' club to the head to smash their little skulls.

I don't know how much hunting you have done, but if you can get close enough to use a club, you sure as heck can get close enough to put a shot right through the head and save the pelt.

Clubs are cheaper, but most importantly they don't make much noise .... hence all the seals don't scamper away. Make them use rifles. The harvest will be reduced, and those seals that are killed won't feel a blessed thing.

Regards,
Feltan

[lochinvar]

Originally Posted by Inquartata

Come on, now, how can anyone be expected to muster any outrage over something that cannot be blamed on Bush?

Oh, I'm quite sure he has a hand in it somewhere...

[lochinvar]

Originally Posted by Feltan

Make them use rifles. The harvest will be reduced, and those seals that are killed won't feel a blessed thing.

Actually I don't think it's been established that they do feel anything after a good solid thump on the noggin with a baseball bat.

[rcmatthews]

Originally Posted by lochinvar

Actually I don't think it's been established that they do feel anything after a good solid thump on the noggin with a baseball bat.

At least clubbing the seals takes a little exertion. And its probably a lot more fun to use a baseball bat too.

[VELISARIOS]

Originally Posted by Slim

Yes, lets unite to wreck the lives of some people who have been doing this for centuries, and rely on it as a means to survive just to satisfy your need to feel better about yourself, without really understanding the bigger picture.

Why dont you find a cause closer to your home where you can actually see and appreciate the results of your actions, rather than attempt to impose your will on people you obviously know nothing about and have absolutely no contact with?

Hello Slim,
I have did it. Now is your turn.

[VELISARIOS]

Originally Posted by Epee_Pox

Do you object to the killing simply because they're so darn adorable? Or do you equally oppose the killing of all other animals for their hides?

As for me, I object to it strictly because they're cute. Don't have a logical reason.

The second one.

[VELISARIOS]

Originally Posted by Feltan

This rates as a big "so what" on today's care-o-meter.

How many heads of cattle will be slaughtered this year? How many fish will be caught and eaten? How many turkey's will end up on the Thanksgiving table? How many chickens will get turned into chicken mcnuggets?

What upsets you about seals? The clubbing? Just give the hunters high powered rifles and the seals will get killed quickly -- but I have a suspicion your objection is more than the mere method of killing them.

Regards,
Feltan

Hi Feltan,
it is a little a bit differend. The cattle, the birds, the fish killed because we have to eat them, the poor seals died because some madams want seal leather and all the meat do not used.
Other matter is that they kill baby seals.
Other matter is that they kill them with clubs because they do not want to harm the 'precius' leather and some of them they skin them alive....PERFECT.
Thats all.

Kind regads
Velisarios

[rcmatthews]

Wait, Wait, I want a seal skin coat too.