The United States of Burrito Men

[I_luv_saber]

Originally Posted by lochinvar

"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to make a complete ass of yourself by saying it."

I believe that is the entire point!

[Dr. Pfleschbach]

I say we make a trade. Let the Mexicans have the US and we get Mexico (okay, maybe not all of us). Look at the benefits: Better surf, better weather, home of the Margarita. Plus, then we'd only have to worry about the Canadians sneaking in.

[jBirch]

Originally Posted by Dr. Pfleschbach

I say we make a trade. Let the Mexicans have the US and we get Mexico (okay, maybe not all of us). Look at the benefits: Better surf, better weather, home of the Margarita. Plus, then we'd only have to worry about the Canadians sneaking in.

We don't sneak. We negotiate.

James.

[Dr. Pfleschbach]

Originally Posted by jBirch

We don't sneak. We negotiate.

James.

Okay, since my wife is Canadian I guess we'll have to let the Canadians in too, but only if they bring along single payer health insurance.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Dr. Pfleschbach

I say we make a trade. Let the Mexicans have the US and we get Mexico (okay, maybe not all of us). Look at the benefits: Better surf, better weather, home of the Margarita. Plus, then we'd only have to worry about the Canadians sneaking in.

There is nothing wrong with Canadians coming in. Non-Chinese Canadians don't even want to come. This is not about illegal immigration, it is about Mexicans coming over and forcing their culture, values and mentality on Americans, the same culture,values and mentality that have created such "punishing poverty" in their own country.

[Dr. Pfleschbach]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

This is not about illegal immigration, it is about Mexicans coming over and forcing their culture, values and mentality on Americans, the same culture,values and mentality that have created such "punishing poverty" in their own country.

Gee, I live around lot's of Mexicans. I don't recall them ever forcing anything on me. Actually it's the other way around. 150 years ago California was part of Mexico until we took it from them and forced them to stop being Mexican. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of people entering the country illegally, but I do think it's important to remember who the real immigrants are.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Dr. Pfleschbach

150 years ago California was part of Mexico until we took it from them and forced them to stop being Mexican.

No. They sold us the land. The Gadsden Purchase.

[TrainingDummy]

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

No. They sold us the land. The Gadsden Purchase.

IIRC, the Gadsden purchase was a small plot of land in southern Arizona and New Mexico. Not California.

[Dr. Pfleschbach]

Read about the Bear Flag Republic

[ReverseLunge]

Who cares? It's the USA now and they need to scram. They can't even manage Mexico.

[Dr. Pfleschbach]

Okay, end of thoughtful discussion. Bye.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Dr. Pfleschbach

Okay, end of thoughtful discussion. Bye.

Don't come back without a green card.

[Inquartata]

Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson

What?! Can that be so hard, seeing to that only precious few illegals get work and papers? Even little Sweden can do just that, so it can´t be too hard!

Yes, it can. Sweden doesn't have a population of 265 million, porous borders, a very poor neighbor with a very poor continent beyond ( imagine Sweden bordering Turkey ) and a very heterogeneous culture, etc.

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!

Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

big snip

The text RL posted is in Swedish, and it is formal Swedish to boot. The content is anti-muslim, claiming that rapes in Sweden are closely related to immigration by muslims. However, there is no mention of any Hispanics. The combination of anti-muslim sentiment and formalistic tone of language leads me to believe that he has snipped it off some Swedish nationalistic/neonazi homepage.


Have a nice time!

Peter Gustafsson

[ReverseLunge]

Originally Posted by Inquartata

No, and no...

Where is Leisure World, anyway? ( I have take the liberty of capitalizing the name, since you appear too lazy to do it. )

Well you honor me by replying. I was thinking that you might take the bait. I resepct you fron now on.

But then you did edit your post so you should give me a rep point.

[ReverseLunge]

Illegals threaten closure of emergency rooms
Florida hospitals face crisis of treating uninsured patients

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Posted: January 3, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern



© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Hospital emergency rooms in Florida may soon be closing their doors as a result of increased demands by uninsured and under-insured patients – many of them illegal aliens.

According to a new study by University of South Florida researchers, much of the demand on hospitals comes from new residents of the state. More than half of all emergency room patients in some Florida hospitals do not have insurance.


Doctors who treat uninsured patients are not compensated for their treatment.

As a result, hospitals in Florida have lost surgeons and stand to lose entire surgical departments. Some hospitals are having a hard time getting physicians to work because they are choosing to work in other areas where they will be fully compensated for the treatment they give.

As WorldNetDaily previously reported, a study by a prominent medical attorney concludes the porous border with Mexico and the resulting influx of illegal aliens poses a major public health threat to the U.S.

Madeleine Pelner Cosman, author of a report in the spring issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, is particularly concerned with increases in multiple drug-resistant tuberculosis, chagas disease, dengue fever, polio, hepatitis A, B, and C, she told Lou Dobbs on CNN in June.

"Certain diseases that we thought we had vanquished years ago are coming back, and other diseases that we've never seen or rarely seen in America, because they've always been the diseases of poverty and the third world, are coming in now," she said.

As WorldNetDaily reported, even leprosy is suddenly on the radar of health officials.

Cosman recommends closing the border to all illegal traffic, rescinding the citizenship of "anchor babies," those born in the U.S. to parents of illegals, and making the aiding and abetting of illegals a crime.

"We have a terrible, absolutely vicious, law called EMTALA: the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act, which is really the culprit that requires every emergency room, and every physician of an emergency room, to treat illegal aliens for free," she said.

Cosman said 84 hospitals in California have been forced to close because of the high cost of treating illegal aliens with only 50 percent of all treatments reimbursed by government.

"Even physicians in those emergency rooms don't fully get the point that by being compassionate, and generous, and gracious, they are, in essence, destroying their own livelihoods as well as their own hospitals," she said.

While politicians often mention there are 43 million without health insurance in this country, Cosman's report estimates that at least 25 percent of those are illegal immigrants. The figure could be as high as 50 percent.

Not being insured does not mean they don't get medical care.

Among the organizations directing illegal aliens into America's medical systems, according to the report, are the Ford Foundation-funded Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund, the National Immigration Law Center, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, the American Bar Association's Commission on Immigration Policy, Practice, and Pro Bono, the Immigrant Legal Resource Center, the National Council of La Raza, George Soros' Open Society Institute, the Migration Policy Institute, the National Network for Immigration and Refugee Rights and the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Because drug addiction and alcoholism are classified as diseases and disabilities, the fiscal toll on the health-care system rises.

"Today, legal immigrants must demonstrate that they are free of communicable diseases and drug addiction to qualify for lawful permanent residency green cards," writes Cosman, a medical lawyer, who formerly taught medical students at the City University of New York. "Illegal aliens simply cross our borders medically unexamined, hiding in their bodies any number of communicable diseases."

[TrainingDummy]

Is that a huge problem. Hell yes it is! How to solve it? Put more money into health care and drastically reduce the military budget for the "War on Terror." Illegal immigration is a problem and you're definitely right about how frustrating it is that marches for rights take place in LA and not Mexico City. However, I think her rejection of the EMTALA supports a rejection of the Hippocratic Oath; harm is being done by refusal to treat certain patients.