03-16-2006, 12:17 PM
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| I think I would kill myself if I had made 4th on the points and was the alternate. It would be like "maybe if I had trained just a little bit harder, I could do something worthwhile, like fence more than one lousy bout. Getting that far is pretty awesome though.
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03-16-2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! I think I would kill myself if I had made 4th on the points and was the alternate. It would be like "maybe if I had trained just a little bit harder, I could do something worthwhile, like fence more than one lousy bout. Getting that far is pretty awesome though. | I don't know about that. The website says he just barely made the team by takeing bronze at Div I Nationals. So, I think I would be pretty happy because I had to fight to the very end to make the team. | ![KShan5[PrFC] is offline](images/fencing_net/statusicon/user_offline.gif)
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03-16-2006, 12:35 PM
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| Given that the top 3 spots were pretty much unless-they-drop-dead-they'll-be-there, being 4th was an awesome accomplishment, especially since nobody expected it (Well, almost nobody...)
I'm sure he would kill himself if he were you, on the other hand.
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03-16-2006, 01:18 PM
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| NJ - Princeton Area
I have to say the area around Princeton (NJ Division, near Philadelphia Div) has a pretty healthy life.
Lots of good tournaments (Pretty much every weekend) of varying levels of difficulty (room for beginners here as well). Some strong players in the area, a bunch of A's you often find at tournaments.
Several nice clubs and availability of good coaching (for all levels). There is also a strong sense of community between the clubs.
You see a bunch of players from the NCAA circuit around the local tournaments (Rutgers, Johns Hopkins, don't see the actual Princeton fencers as much as I would like).
There are also healthy high-school programs in the area.
It may not be the home of the National teams, but for a person that wants to fence and to improve, it is an awesome environment.
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03-16-2006, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KShan5[PrFC] I don't know about that. The website says he just barely made the team by takeing bronze at Div I Nationals. So, I think I would be pretty happy because I had to fight to the very end to make the team. | A lot happier than the people who had been ahead of him and then lost out.
The Epee alternate got to fence because the team wasn't competing for a medal. Didn't the Sabre alternate fence also?
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03-16-2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Poulet Greg listed his coaches as "Phillipe Blanchet, Gamil Kaliouby, Judy O’Donnell" here. I don't know which, if any, of these was primary, though... | Greg started with Judy O'Donnell when he was quite young and on the Boston FC Junior Team. Judy moved with her husband to Indianna (?) and Greg then switched to Gamil Kaliouby. Greg spent two periods in Paris doing medical research. I believe it was then that he worked with Phillipe Blanchet. I don't know who he would have listed as his coach when he was a Harvard undergrad. He might have continued with Gamil during that time.
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03-16-2006, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fencerbill A lot happier than the people who had been ahead of him and then lost out.
The Epee alternate got to fence because the team wasn't competing for a medal. Didn't the Sabre alternate fence also? | The sabre alternate, tim morehouse, to my knowledge didn't fence in athens. If you recall, the US was in it for a medal right up to the end (losing 45-44 to france to make the final, then 45-44 to russia for the bronze).
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03-16-2006, 04:15 PM
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| It's so hard to judge because of all the moving....I THINK Emily and Sada will be in NY next year, not Atlanta...Is that their coach's fault? Not really... | |
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03-16-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KShan5[PrFC] I disagree, Greg Chang was coached by Pavel and made the Olympic team as an alternate, but he didn't really fence in New England. Besides that there's Ariana Daria and Eva who have come out of the division as has Henry, (at least recently), but to put New England as one of the best divisions, I think is a stretch. |
we have large numbers of fencers-- and not all of them are horrible. we certainly don't have the olympians.... but we certainly have a number of people who tend to do well.
counting the people who are no longer primarily in new england also doesn't put us into greatness either, but you'll notice i said "better"...... which is true.
but you'll notice that i put our running of tournaments first. i mentioned having fencers mostly because to run tournaments, you have to have fencers. which we do.
but anyway, what do you define as a good division? is a good division one that happens to have a lot of olympians in it? is it one that is well organized? one that it's easy to start fencing? it kind of seems like college board rankings.... it's useful to compare #1 with #100, but it's not as useful to compare #1 and #5, nevermind #1 and #2.....
it wouldn't be that much of a strech to create a definition of a good division where new england was pretty damn high up........
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03-16-2006, 08:52 PM
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| As I said - it's silly to look at sections or divisions 'cause people move around so much - since Emily is at Columbia she has fenced at FC. Sada has also fenced at FC as it was closer to Yale than Atlanta. A lot of the "up&coming" WS fencers are listed as NJ or LI division but fence at FC. The "section" or "division" label is not as useful as looking at club affiliation - OFA, Nellya, FC, Chicago. | |
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03-16-2006, 09:34 PM
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| One possible definition of a good division.
The last 3 times I got a new or renewed classification was at national events. It is too hard to do it in my home division.
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03-16-2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyweasle As I said - it's silly to look at sections or divisions 'cause people move around so much - since Emily is at Columbia she has fenced at FC. Sada has also fenced at FC as it was closer to Yale than Atlanta. A lot of the "up&coming" WS fencers are listed as NJ or LI division but fence at FC. The "section" or "division" label is not as useful as looking at club affiliation - OFA, Nellya, FC, Chicago. | Especially since some fencers (not the highest level, but the medium level) specifically avoid putting down their strong club's division because it is very difficult to qualify from sections with strong clubs, Metro NYC being a great example. | |
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03-17-2006, 03:11 AM
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