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Originally Posted by pigeonmeister But the problem is that the Serbian people are not learning from history- they are denying or manipulating it. They refuse to believe that Mladic and Karadzic are guilty of appalling war crimes in Bosnia and Herzegovina for which they must be punished by the War Tribunal in the Hague. They think Mladic is a national hero- this is stil taught in elementary schools. Even now- the Serbian government could find Mladic if they really wanted and the Serbian orthodox church has been actively hiding him. The recent pictures of Serbian paramilitaries (next to Serbian regulars) executing Bosnian Muslims was the first time that the Serbian people even accepted a link between the paramilitaries and the government. Many high ranking officers involved in the massacre at Srebrenica still hold high positions in the army and police.
The governmental commission tasked with establishing the fate of thousands of missing Srebrenica inhabitants, established at the end of 2004, was expected to reveal the location of mass graves in and around Srebrenica - where 7-8,000 Muslim men and boys are believed to be buried - but instead submitted a 16-page account of the difficulties it had encountered trying to do its work.
"I cannot believe that the Army of Republic of Srpska knew nothing about the locations of mass graves, and that the people there do not know a single man who took part in those events, while there were hundreds, and maybe thousands of people who directly participated in the massacre," Ashdown said. " It is shocking that you still have to pull the truth out of them like a bad tooth."
UN High Representative in Bosnia, Paddy Ashdown.
We should have to face up to history but history itself actually shows that this never really happens. Look at the Japanese school textbooks that make no reference to atrocities in China. Look at the Cold War myth that the German people (and regular army) were not compliant in the actions of the Nazi party. Are US kids taught about using drug money to fund illegal South American paramilitaries? How long did it take for US film/literature to face up to the word 'genocide' when referring to the treatment of Native Americans? I don't remember being taught about the British massacres during the colonial period.
History just becomes a rallying cry or a poltical football- look at the battle for History that is going on in Iraq (Bush says Iraq= WW2 Germany/Japan and 9/11= Pearl Harbour, Democrats say Iraq=Vietnam) History that doesn't make an impact into popular culture, or appear as point of reference on a national consiousness is useless as a rhetorical tool. There has to be a sort of selection process. |
Hi pigeonmeister,
nice point of view. I agree with you in most of your thoughs. My objection was at the begining of this post.My opinion is that any man can have a final resting place with a normal funeral. I do not know if Mil order his officials to kill in cold rush the Mulsims (but I belive that in a war there are accrosities in both sides) so I can not criticise him. After all when someone win hide what he done from the lights of MEDIA or give to us what he want. None knows what happen there (in both sides) exept of those who fight and those who suffer from them. I do not know if we have clear proofs about this matter as we have in Hitler's holocoust.
As you said none punished for the slauter in China from Jappanes soldiers, none punished for the Armenian genocide which take place at April 24th 1915 the Turkish Ottoman Empire kill
2 million Armenian men, women and children. Who punished for the destruction of Smyrna? Look what happened, I post Dr. Dobkin's post who vividly presented the atrocities committed by the Turkish troops:
"Within hours of Ataturk’s victorious entry into the beautiful, thriving and predominantly Greek city of Smyrna (now Izmir), Turkish soldiers began the killing and raping of Greeks and Armenians, and the looting and pillaging of their homes and shops. Over 100,000 Greek and Armenian civilians were killed by the Turks.''
and he continue
"After breaking down the doors and entering Armenian and Greek homes house by house (the Greek and Armenian quarters overlapped), Ataturk’s soldiers killed and raped the inhabitants, and emptied the furnishings into waiting trucks. This was the finale of the Armenian Genocide of the First World War when close to two million Armenian men, women and children had in 1915-1916 been dispatched to their deaths by the Young Turks from all points in Turkey -- except Smyrna.''
and he continues
"In the harbor of Smyrna stood a flotilla of twenty-one warships: French cruisers and destroyers, British destroyers and a battleship, an Italian battleship and three American destroyers. All were on orders from their respective foreign offices and military commanders to refrain from giving aid and comfort to the Greeks and Armenians who were considered enemies of the Turks. The ships were on hand to 'protect their own interests only.' Allen Dulles, head of the near-East division at the U.S. State Department, gave the order, which had been passed down from the Secretary of State, to the American ships through Admiral Bristol in Constantinople.''
"Days later, when the wind turned and began blowing toward the sea in the record heat of that September, the stench was so strong on the streets and in the victims' homes from the remains of those massacred in that part of Smyrna, that even the large battleships had to move back 80 yards. It was at this point that Ataturk’s soldiers, led by their officers, set the city to the torch.''
and he continues
"Thus, one of the most magnificent cities on earth as attested to by travelers over the millennia, the city where Homer was born and whose magnificent harbor the Romans treasured so much that 'they treated the Smyrneans kindly so as to preserve to themselves the finest port in Asia,' was totally destroyed, its churches and mansions burned to the ground. The Greek and Armenians citizens, all well-to-do, were killed and those remaining were pauperized, and the large, immensely wealthy European population was gotten rid of by Ataturk, the new leader of Turkey who had said 'Turkey for the Turks.' He was aided by the very nations who had shortly before been enemies of Turkey and were now, evidently betraying Greece in a monumental turnaround,
owing to the oil of the Mosul now Iraq (again Iraq) that Ataturk had inherited from the Ottoman Empire, 'deja vue' all over again."
I do not think so that any one punished for that, and all of this killing exist for the oil. And be carefull Ataturk is a hero for Turks, and his name mean Father of Turks. This massecre forgotten from all over the world and even from the the Turks memories.And I am questioning if Hitler won the war who will remember the killing of Jews? None he should be the winner and all should be forgotten.
My point is that there are killings, genocides which are not punished from the justice, there are killers which they live free and I just ask WHY?
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