Potential New Olympic Fencing Event

[gtmac]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Back on topic, 3W individual tournaments are something that I think is a fun local option, but not something I'd particularly push for above that level. And running three separate tournaments with composite results (large number of ways of handling that) seems a lot more practical than constantly swapping out equipment.

-B

Running three separate tournaments would defeat the purpose of the format. changing one's focus between 3 weapons in a short time is a daunting task and that's part of the challenge. Think Biathlon.

And if it wasn't done above the local level, who would bother.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by gtmac

Running three separate tournaments would defeat the purpose of the format. changing one's focus between 3 weapons in a short time is a daunting task and that's part of the challenge. Think Biathlon.

Depends on the "purpose of the format". Most people might think the purpose of such a tournament is being able to do multiple different activites at a high level. Think Modern Pentathlon, Decathlon, Heptathlon, etc.

-B

[gtmac]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Depends on the "purpose of the format". Most people might think the purpose of such a tournament is being able to do multiple different activites at a high level. Think Modern Pentathlon, Decathlon, Heptathlon, etc.

-B

"Most people might think..."?! If you're going to go for the meaninglessly vague why not shoot for the moon and say "ALL people might think..."?

It's just as true and far more impressive.

[Mr Epee]

Originally Posted by gtmac

Comments? Thoughts? Please tweak away.

You are off your rocker.

I can't believe you are wasting people's time with this rubbish.

[gtmac]

Originally Posted by Mr Epee

You are off your rocker.

I can't believe you are wasting people's time with this rubbish.

Last time I checked, clicking on and reading a thread was a voluntary action.

[Mr Epee]

If you don't want people's opinions, then maybe you should ask for them.

That way you will be free to fence all the moronic events you wish - somewhere in la-la land... where you rule supreme with your trusty purple unicorn side-kick.

Here's a free prediction: Your events will never happen. Stop it.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

If we indulge this bull ****, next thing you know, we'll be fencing in a circle.

[Mr Epee]

No! Wait!

I have an idea for the Olympics.

Everyone has to fence while holding a chicken.

I'll be sending a letter to Rogge tomorrow.

Hint: If you don't understand the Olympics, and you don't understand fencing, might be best to avoid putting them into the same sentence.

[gtmac]

Originally Posted by Mr Epee

If you don't want people's opinions, then maybe you should ask for them.

That way you will be free to fence all the moronic events you wish - somewhere in la-la land... where you rule supreme with your trusty purple unicorn side-kick.

Here's a free prediction: Your events will never happen. Stop it.

True, I asked for everyone's opinions.

I'm just wondering why many are so absolutely negative about it. Most of the posts focus on equipment issues. Other's, like your own call the idea moronic without any kind of detail about why.

Also, I'm not particularly worried about whether "my" events happen or not. I was just hoping (obviously beyond reason) that there might be an interesting debate about the idea. I can take the cons with the pros, but I fail to see any explicit cons in your comments, just raw disdain.

[seak]

Dude Mr. Epee chill out

An idea was tossed out, you don't agree with it. You have the right to express your opinion, but as an adult you should be able to do it in a way that is mature and reasonable.

The idea of a 3 weapon thing is fun, but probably best left at the local level. I don't see it flying in the olympics, but hey part of the fun of this forum is people tossing out new ideas. They don't deserve to be ridiculed.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by gtmac

If you're going to go for the meaninglessly vague why not shoot for the moon and say "ALL people might think..."?

In my experience, it seems clear that at least SOME people don't have the capability... :)

Depends on the "purpose of the format". I think the purpose of the format should be to demonstrate the capability to do multiple different activites at a high level. Think Modern Pentathlon, Decathlon, Heptathlon, etc.

Happier?

-B

[gtmac]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

In my experience, it seems clear that at least SOME people don't have the capability...

Depends on the "purpose of the format". I think the purpose of the format should be to demonstrate the capability to do multiple different activites at a high level. Think Modern Pentathlon, Decathlon, Heptathlon, etc.

Happier?

-B

Much

I can see your point. I think the major difference between your "purpose" and mine is the time between competing in different weapons. Both require a high level in all three. One of the goals of the short time frame between weapons was to add the ability to shift focus quickly to the mix.

I could see the appeal of both.

[Capt. Slo-mo]

Originally Posted by Mr Epee

No! Wait! I have an idea for the Olympics. Everyone has to fence while holding a chicken.

Live, or frozen?

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by Capt. Slo-mo

Live, or frozen?

Cryogenically frozen while still alive and kept cold (despite being used in Olympic events) to be thawed and brought back to life when medical technology catches up sufficiently.

-B

[Capt. Slo-mo]

Ok, NOW I think we're on to something!

For Saber bouts: Live, fully spurred rooster held in the off hand. Rooster is wired, spurs conductive, may be used to score on riposte, but never to parry.

For Foil bouts: must have hyperactive minature pinscher dog strapped to mask. Points to opponent for every bite suffered during bout.

For Epee bouts: just to speed things along, off hand is locked into a two compartment, transparent box filled with fire ants. After 90 seconds of elapsed fencing time, the interior door of box opens to release the fire ants.

I see Fox Sports written all over this made for TV event!

[PeterGustafsson]

Hi!


For all people who like to ridicule in place of reasoning, and add threaddrift as an extra insult:

I sure miss the negative rep points option.


Peter Gustafsson

[pigeonmeister]

Accusing people of wasting their time- on a geeky fencing forum (oh yea like these people have much more interesting things to do!) now that is funny! Somepeople like to think they are too Kool for school.

[pigeonmeister]

Originally Posted by Poulet

...and "somepeople" just make no sense at all.

And 'somepeople' try and appear a derisive as possible because they are obnoxious smart arses.

[Mr Epee]

Originally Posted by Poulet

I don't try to appear derisive. I am derisive.

eh... leave him alone... he's just trolling you.

He's just mad that his Prime Minister is our President's woman.

[Dr. Pfleschbach]

Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken!

If we indulge this bull ****, next thing you know, we'll be fencing in a circle.

Actually, I overheard a serious discussion about fencing in a circle between some well regarded coaches at a recent NAC. The idea was that using wireless scoring boxes could revolutionize the sport of fencing.

Speaking of revolutionary ideas, there is an epee coach in the LA area that has held a few doubles tournaments where there are two fencers on each side. A touch against either opponent counts. If your partner receives five touches, they're out and you wind up fencing two opponents simultaneously. I didn't try it but the fencers who did said it was really fun. I doubt it'll make it to the Olympics, though.