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View Poll Results: Have you served in your nation's military? (Responses visible) | |
No.
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Yes. Support.
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Yes. Combat Arms (infantry, armour, artillery, pilot/gunner, blue-water navy).
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Yes. Combat Veteren (been shot at/bombed/shelled/etc...)
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Yes. Regular Force.
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03-07-2006, 09:25 PM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by needle too late - already voted in mine - Soviet version of ROTC, leutenant in Army anti-aircraft troops | Do tell! Did you ride around in a ZSU-23-4, SA-9, or use those revenge-only SA-7's?
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03-07-2006, 09:30 PM
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#42 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: right here, on your screen
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Originally Posted by Feltan Do tell! Did you ride around in a ZSU-23-4, SA-9, or use those revenge-only SA-7's? | 1C32 "Круг" (Krug) - not sure what american nomenclature was for that beast
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03-07-2006, 09:54 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by needle 1C32 "Круг" (Krug) - not sure what american nomenclature was for that beast | SA-4 "Ganef" | |
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03-07-2006, 10:22 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mid-West USA
Posts: 613
| Needle,
Take a look at your old friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-4_Ganef
My hat is off to you, even though we squared off on opposite sides. I am so thankful the balloon never went up -- as we'd say in the U.S. military.
Regards,
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03-07-2006, 10:35 PM
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#45 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,035
| Navy.....4yrs active, 4 yrs reserves...and not one day on a ship. My birds were too big for carriers. | |
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03-07-2006, 10:42 PM
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#46 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Feltan Take a look at your old friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-4_Ganef
My hat is off to you, even though we squared off on opposite sides. I am so thankful the balloon never went up -- as we'd say in the U.S. military. | Yep, that's the one. I was trained to operate the Rocket Guidance Station (Pat Hand) and quite happy that I never got the chance to use it - customary exchange of hats follows 
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03-07-2006, 10:43 PM
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#47 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Phrogger So you're saying that you don't think we should offer college tuition as an incentive to be in the military...hmm, then what would you call the G.I. Bill? I'm just saying that the same incentives should be offered for civil service if they aren't already. Not sure if there's a compensation package for the Peace Corps.
Edit: Oh, and I never said that the standards should be relaxed, either...
Edit 2: Or were you referring to the "Starship Troopers" thing? You didn't quote... | I'm disappointed that the GI Bill hasent really kept up with the times. I think 100% free tuition should be available to anyone doing 4 years active duty or anyone doing a tour in a combat role during a conflict, with free grad school for those taking a commission after finishing undergrad. I'm also in favor of offering more incentives to those serving the US in non-military roles. | |
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03-07-2006, 11:15 PM
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#48 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Somewhere in your nightmares!
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Originally Posted by jBirch Full time professional soldiers.
James. | As opposed to what? National Guard- and Reserve-type soldiers? ( Not sure we have the same sorts of distinct forces as you do up there. ) Or do you mean career vs. few-term volunteers vs. draftees?
I was in the Army ( which was known as Regular Army in some circles, so maybe you understand my confusion ). Infantry, first Rangers, then overseas service guarding nuclear missile bases, and later mechanized anti-tank-missile platoons of a couple of different infantry battalions. Never saw combat, though. | |
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03-07-2006, 11:21 PM
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#49 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by pigeonmeister ten thousand D'watushi warriors armed to the teeth with kiwi fruit and guava halves. | I forget, how does one defend oneself against assailants armed with kiwis and guavas? Drop a 16-ton weight on them or release the tiger? | |
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03-07-2006, 11:38 PM
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#50 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: near Boston
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Originally Posted by Feltan Needle,
Take a look at your old friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-4_Ganef
My hat is off to you, even though we squared off on opposite sides. I am so thankful the balloon never went up -- as we'd say in the U.S. military.
Regards,
Feltan | I had three years sea duty, on both the USS Boston and USS Canberra, doing missile maintenance on the Terrier SAM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrier_missile
After Korea and before Viet Nam. But we were offshore when the marines landed in Lebanon in 1958.
Unfortunately there was a gap in the GI Bill benefits for my time in the service. It was later closed. The month I got my Masters but was not retroactive.
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03-07-2006, 11:51 PM
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#51 | | Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CA
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Originally Posted by jeff Did not serve - during 'Nam and compulsory draft. 4F (I'm waiting for a non-USA member to ask what that is) due to pathetic eyes; they would have had to have been desperate to take me. "Shoot that bad guy" "What bad guy?".
Yes, that was Starship Troopers. Mind you, Heinlein fenced with Italian foil, which must indicate something. | That he was elegant?
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03-07-2006, 11:53 PM
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#52 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Kitchener, Ontario
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Originally Posted by jBirch In Canada we don't offer any sort of tuition or other recruitment "perks" except for our military college (RMC: full room, board, tuition and beatings).
We do pay well enough that a summer spent serving in the enlisted military will pay for the following two semesters of university. And there are career improvement courses (university degress generally) that can be taken once you're a full member, but nothing guarenteed up front.
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ARe you sure about this. I knew a MARS Officer in univeristy who was a sub-lieutenant in the Navy and his education was subsidized by the DoD. He was there endentured slave for a couple years after he graduated though...funny.....though in the Navy, was stationed at HMCS Griffin during the school year....in Thunder Bay.
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03-07-2006, 11:53 PM
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#53 | | Guardian
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Originally Posted by Slim Navy.....4yrs active, 4 yrs reserves...and not one day on a ship. My birds were too big for carriers. | P-3's? That would make you a low-sodium sailor, now wouldn't it?
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03-07-2006, 11:55 PM
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#54 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Slim Navy.....4yrs active, 4 yrs reserves...and not one day on a ship. My birds were too big for carriers. | I did 3 years, 11 months, and 6 days, but who counts?
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03-08-2006, 12:01 AM
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#55 | | Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CA
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| I did four years USN 85-89, AT3 but missed the "frocking" ceremony for AT2, because that was my out date. Two WESPAC cruises with VAW114 onboard the USS Carl Vinson CVN70. Longest stretch without land was 105 days in the I.O. turning circles. No combat, thankfully.
Slim- you still a slimy wog? Bow down to the Shellback!!
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03-08-2006, 12:55 AM
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#56 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by gojujay I did four years USN 85-89, AT3 but missed the "frocking" ceremony for AT2, because that was my out date. Two WESPAC cruises with VAW114 onboard the USS Carl Vinson CVN70. Longest stretch without land was 105 days in the I.O. turning circles. No combat, thankfully.
Slim- you still a slimy wog? Bow down to the Shellback!! | Heh, you got that right...P3s. | |
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03-08-2006, 01:03 AM
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#57 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by fencerbill I did 3 years, 11 months, and 6 days, but who counts? | Everyone.... | |
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03-08-2006, 02:09 AM
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#58 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by gojujay Slim- you still a slimy wog? Bow down to the Shellback!! | Squids.   | |
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03-08-2006, 02:09 AM
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#59 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Slim Heh, you got that right...P3s. | And an aviator to boot. | |
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03-08-2006, 02:58 AM
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#60 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
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| Okay, for you Navy guys......Hatch, deck, head, starboard, fouled, lay, bulkhead. Whats wrong with good ol' fashion english terms? Why the need to make a whole new vocabulary?
Don't even get me started on your ranks. | |
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