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    NCAAs 2K6!

    Now that regionals is over, who do you guys think is going to win NCAAs?
    As a team? And as individuals?

    I predict either Harvard or PSU to win team (based on total number of qualifyers)

    and top 4s in individuals

    MF
    Ellis to win, Berkowsky, Horanyi and Sinkin in the 4, along with a possibility of Itamari Kinter, and Sugimoto.

    ME
    Bratton, Tolkachev, Urman, and Solomon. Hurme, Ungar, and Sherril are also strong contenders.

    MS
    J. Williams, Crompton, Igoe, and Hagamen in the 4. Other contenders are Martin Zagunis, J. Jakus and Boghicev

    WF
    Cross to win, Nemecek, Leahy, and Donath in the 4.

    WE: My head hurts now. I'll come up with some names later.

    WS
    In the top 4: Zagunis, Baratta, Emily Jacobson, and Caity Thompson
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    Isn't Crompton redshirting this year? I assumed the OSU qualifiers would be Rogers and Momselidze. That being said, I don't think Williams will be top 4, considering the rest of the field.
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    According to the OSU site, Crompton won his regionals.

    James was fencing really well the last couple times I saw him fence. I wouldn't count him out.
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    Didn't James Williams win a recent div 1 NAC?
    If I remember that correctly, then I think he at least has the upside to win NCAAs.
    I also heard teddy sherril didn't compete in regionals and thus wouldn't be going to nationals. If true this would make a top finish difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whtouche
    Didn't James Williams win a recent div 1 NAC?
    If I remember that correctly, then I think he at least has the upside to win NCAAs.
    I also heard teddy sherril didn't compete in regionals and thus wouldn't be going to nationals. If true this would make a top finish difficult.
    Teddy Sherrill did not compete at regionals. James Williams did win a Div 1 NAC, but didn't make top 8 at regionals. He certainly has the upside to win, but I certainly wouldn't bet on him finishing above Hagamen.

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    Anybody have a link to results (or the results themselves) for the west regionals in Colorado? I'd love to find out how some clubmates did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordway
    Anybody have a link to results (or the results themselves) for the west regionals in Colorado? I'd love to find out how some clubmates did.
    Try checking the official athletics website of their particular school (usually is the first result on google if you search for "school name" + athletics). From there, you should find a link to their fencing team, which might include their results. Generally speaking, there's no good source for complete results of collegiate fencing competitions.

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    WE: Garina and Konczalska in the 4.

    Garina has a chance at a threepeat with her third consecutive NCAA WE title. Her teammate Konczalska has a chance at stopping her. (Konczalska beat Garina 15-13 in the Midwest Regional final)

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    I'd give Ellis and Horanyi the top-2. Itameri-Kinter needs more seasoning. ME is a toss-up as I'm not so familiar with the names. J. Williams is too unpredictable to depend on making top-4. Marten is also not so consistent. Crompton is a great team player and fighting for the Buckeyes will definitely add to his strength. Momsetlitzde (sp?) is also a team player and fighter. Is Rogers fencing for OSU this year? Hasn't he graduated?

    Cross will walk all over the WF field with Leahy close behind. I haven't seen or heard of Leahy at NACs and elsewhere for a while, so her competitive experience has dried up a bit and that could hurt her chances. Practice against your opponents is everything.

    Garina is definitely a shoo-in for the top-2. I don't know who else is still in there, though. Maybe Kerscmar (sp?).

    I'll put my dime in that Mariel will not win the WS. She'll make top-4, maybe top-2. Why? Why not. I'm a contraian. Sell ExxonMobil and buy Palm!

    Is there a list yet of the players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordway
    Anybody have a link to results (or the results themselves) for the west regionals in Colorado? I'd love to find out how some clubmates did.
    Here are the results from NCAA Westerns: Results

    The fencers that qualify for Westerns are:

    MF: Gerberman, Smith, Fulton
    WF: Brenden, Chun
    WE: Enyart, Ambort
    ME: Ranes, Lee, Stockdale
    MS: Levitt, Baran
    WS: Jellison, Jacobsen

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    Not weighing in on my picks yet until I know who has at large beths, there are definitely some wild-cards...but as a side note Jaqueline and Emily will probably end up being a good bout, I wouldn't count Jaqueline out. She hasn't been fencing NACs but I seem to recall that she hasn't lost a bout all season except a 15-13 to Emily at IFAs or some such....could be interesting.
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    Don't discount Ghattas for MS! He finished 2nd last year and has really grown in skill. Other than that, I too will wait for the list to come from Indianapolis (home to all things NCAA). Although Ohio State is claiming the full 12, even though they only qualified 9 at the midwest regionals. Wonder how they already know what the rest of us have to wait to learn? ALSO, Wayne State has a new woman in sabre. I think if she hadn't fenced injured she might have finished higher than 4th at the regionals. Has Barratta ever finished higher than the bottom 8 at NCAAs? I don't see her near the top. Thank goodness it is only a couple of weeks away!!

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    This might help the discussion....

    The following individuals were selected to participate in the championships:

    MEN’S EPEE
    First Name Last Name School Region
    Sam Richardson Boston College Northeast
    Dwight Smith Columbia University Northeast
    Julian Rose Harvard University Northeast
    Benji Ungar Harvard University Northeast
    Daniel Zielinski Johns Hopkins University Mid-Atlantic South
    Philip Andrews New York University Northeast
    Jason Pryor Ohio State University Midwest
    Denis Tolkachev Ohio State University Midwest
    Arthur Urman Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    James Moody Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Tommi Hurme Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
    Ben Solomon Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
    Jason Henderson Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
    New Brunswick
    Benjamin Bratton St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Adam Rodney St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Clayton Kenney Stanford University West
    Martin Lee Stanford University West
    Jackson Ranes U.S. Air Force Academy West
    Jason Stockdale U.S. Air Force Academy West
    Mike Burkhart University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
    Aaron Adjemian University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Karol Kostka University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Marek Petraszek Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
    Michael Pearce Yale University Northeast


    MEN’S FOIL
    First Name Last Name School Region
    Will Friedman Brandeis University Northeast
    Eugene Vortsman Brandeis University Northeast
    Calvin Chen Columbia University Northeast
    Scott Sugimoto Columbia University Northeast
    Kai Itameri-Kinter Harvard University Northeast
    Enoch Woodhouse Harvard University Northeast
    Spencer Sugimoto Massachusetts Institute of Technology Northeast
    Gabriel Sinkin New York University Northeast
    Boaz Ellis Ohio State University Midwest
    Andras Horanyi Ohio State University Midwest
    Jeffery Chang Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Alexander Louton Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Douglas Hohensee Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
    Jesse Schibilia Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
    New Brunswick
    Sam Wunderlich St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Richard Fulton Stanford University West
    Steve Gerberman Stanford University West
    Nathan Smith U.S. Air Force Academy West
    Steve Piantadosi University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
    Jakub Jedrkowiak University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Mark Kubik University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Ronald Berkowsky University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Michael Galligan University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Corey Werk Yale University Northeast


    MEN’S SABRE
    First Name Last Name School Region
    Jeremy Simpson Brandeis University Northeast
    Alexander Diacou Columbia University Northeast
    James Williams Columbia University Northeast
    Jaroslaw Jelinek University of Detroit Mercy Midwest
    Peter Truszkowski Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
    Timothy Hagaman Harvard University Northeast
    David Jakus Harvard University Northeast
    Igor Kopylov Massachusetts Institute of Technology Northeast
    Andrew Magee New York University Northeast
    Adam Crompton Ohio State University Midwest
    Mike Momtselidze Ohio State University Midwest
    Franz Boghicev Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Marten Zagunis Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Benjamin Igoe Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
    New Brunswick
    Luther Clement St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Nikita Tsukhlo St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Teddy Levitt Stanford University West
    CJ Baran U.S. Air Force Academy West
    Will Randolph University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
    Robert Ziechmann University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
    Patrick Ghattas University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Matt Stearns University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Matt Kolasa University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Justin Bernstein Vassar College Northeast


    WOMEN’S EPEE
    First Name Last Name School Region
    Ruth Schneider Brown University Northeast
    Elizabeth Morgan Midgley Columbia University Northeast
    Rachel Rowe Columbia University Northeast
    Meghan Phair Cornell University Northeast
    Dorothy Hubbard Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
    Anne Kercsmar Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
    Maria Larsson Harvard University Northeast
    Jasmine McGlade Harvard University Northeast
    Jean Goto New York University Northeast
    Sharon Sullivan Northwestern University Midwest
    Kaela Brendler Ohio State University Midwest
    Case Szarwark Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Katarzyna Trzopek Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Erin McGarry Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
    Joanna Guy St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Reka Szele St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Brianna Ferrara Temple University Mid-Atlantic South
    Eliza Enyart U.S. Air Force Academy West
    Chelsea Ambort University of California, San Diego West
    Amy Orlando University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Madeleine Stephan University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Holly Buechel University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Anna Garina Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
    Justyna Konczalska Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest


    WOMEN’S FOIL
    First Name Last Name School Region
    Senta Breden California State University, Fullerton West
    Kelsey Finkel Columbia University Northeast
    Kathleen Reckling Columbia University Northeast
    Marilyn Tycer Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
    Emily Cross Harvard University Northeast
    Chloe Stinetorf Harvard University Northeast
    Kristen Wentrcek New York University Northeast
    Jessica Florendo Northwestern University Midwest
    Samantha Nemecek Northwestern University Midwest
    Annekathrin Donath Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Tamara Najm Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Sara Jew-Lim Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
    Jacqueline Leahy Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
    Erzsebet Garay St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Katia Larchanka St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Nina Gernes Temple University Mid-Atlantic South
    Jenna Remmert Temple University Mid-Atlantic South
    Christine Lee Tufts University Northeast
    Jen Chun University of California, San Diego West
    Melanie Bautista University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Adrienne Nott University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Abigail Emerson University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Ilana Sinkin University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Lindsay Howard Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest

    WOMEN’S SABRE
    First Name Last Name School Region
    Emma Baratta Columbia University Northeast
    Emily Jacobson Columbia University Northeast
    Alexandra Heiss Cornell University Northeast
    Ibtihaj Muhammad Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
    Allison Schafer Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
    Alexa Weingarden Harvard University Northeast
    Carolyn Wright Harvard University Northeast
    Emily Paternak Northwestern University Midwest
    Mai Van Vu Northwestern University Midwest
    Siobhan Byrne Ohio State University Midwest
    Eileen Grench Ohio State University Midwest
    Sophia Hiss Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Caitlin Thompson Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
    Lauren Phillips Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
    New Brunswick
    Olya Ovtchinnikova St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Kasia Wieronski St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
    Eva Jellison Stanford University West
    Raelyn Jacobson University of California, San Diego West
    Jennifer Kling University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
    Valerie Providenza University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Mariel Zagunis University of Notre Dame Midwest
    Cassandra Partyka University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
    Katarzyna Kuzniak Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
    Carly Guss Yale University Northeast
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    Congrats to BZ!

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    ME ... Marek Petraszek won conference and regionals, hes def a huge contender for mens epee, i was the only one to beat him in the last 2-3 tournies, and im pretty proud of that.

    but yea, he finished ahead of tochachev and all of the Notre dame fencers, so yea, hes a top competitor for epee.. and Crompton is competeing, hes not redshirted.

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    From that list, here are my top-4s:

    ME: Solomon, Bratton, Smith, Tolkachev
    MF: Horanyi, Sinkin, Ellis, Berkowsky
    MS: Crompton, Momtselidze, Boghicev, Ghattas
    WE: Szarwark, Trzopek, Szele, Garina
    WF: Cross, Nemecek, Leahy, Donath
    WS: Zagunis, Jacobson, Providenza, Baratta

    Teams:

    1. Harvard
    2. St. John's
    3. PSU
    4. OSU/Notre Dame

    I'm giving PSU a small lead over OSU because the PSU folks really down their koolaid and fight for their team. Also, OSU has no WF. Can't decide on NDU and OSU. NDU is weak on everything except MS and WS.

    Harvard, on the other hand, has a very balanced, strong field in every event category. They're fielding a full team, which really helps. Their weakest is WS and ME and that's just slightly weak. All of them can easily produce more wins than loses.
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    Spreadsheet listing the qualifiers sorted by school, as well as a count of how many people each school has.

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    and the winner is...

    1. Harvard
    2. Penn State
    3. St Johns
    4. Notre Dame-OSU (pick 'em)

    Harvard and PS qualified full teams. I give Harvard a slight edge. Without any WF, OSU & Notre Dame can't win. St Johns is light in MF.

    Individuals:
    MS - Hagaman
    MF - Ellis
    ME - Bratton

    WF - Cross
    WS - Zagunis
    WE - Trzopek

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    Eh, didn't count right. PSU also has 12 (as does ND). In this case, I will put PSU over St Johns. And even though ND has 12, their only strength will be in M/W Saber.

    So my top-4 teams will be the same as heretics:
    Hahvahd
    Nittany Lions
    SJU
    ND/OSU, with Columbia (the other Lions) as a very definite spoiler to make top-4.

    The big question is what teams will make 5-8?

    My picks:

    5. UPenn Quakers
    6. Princeton Tigers
    7. Stanfoo Pope's colors
    8. Wayne State whatchamacallits
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    My predictions for MS:

    People seem to think that Crompton is a sure bet for top 4, having won it twice already. But after last year's performance, I'm inclined to think that he'll miss out again this year. Top 8 for sure, probably 5th or 6th. But I don't think he's going all the way.

    Momselidze on the other hand has been having a great season, and is very consistent in his 5-touch bouts. I think he'll be in the top 4.

    Hagamen has also been having a great season. He finished in the top 4 last year, and won the Penn State Open (a solid victory over Momselidze) this year. I'd place him in the top 4 for sure.

    Boghicev's name has been getting thrown around a lot too. He was a strong presence at NCAA's last year, but his style hasn't improved any since then, giving people tme to adapt. He'll put up a top 8 finish but I don't see him going to the finals.

    Ghattas and Igoe are my calls for the other 2 spots. It depends how the DE's get matched up, but I would tentatively call:

    1. Hagamen
    2. Momselidze
    3. Igoe
    4. Ghattas
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