03-06-2006, 12:43 PM
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| NCAAs 2K6! Now that regionals is over, who do you guys think is going to win NCAAs?
As a team? And as individuals?
I predict either Harvard or PSU to win team (based on total number of qualifyers)
and top 4s in individuals
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Ellis to win, Berkowsky, Horanyi and Sinkin in the 4, along with a possibility of Itamari Kinter, and Sugimoto.
ME
Bratton, Tolkachev, Urman, and Solomon. Hurme, Ungar, and Sherril are also strong contenders.
MS
J. Williams, Crompton, Igoe, and Hagamen in the 4. Other contenders are Martin Zagunis, J. Jakus and Boghicev
WF
Cross to win, Nemecek, Leahy, and Donath in the 4.
WE: My head hurts now. I'll come up with some names later.
WS
In the top 4: Zagunis, Baratta, Emily Jacobson, and Caity Thompson
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03-06-2006, 12:55 PM
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| Isn't Crompton redshirting this year? I assumed the OSU qualifiers would be Rogers and Momselidze. That being said, I don't think Williams will be top 4, considering the rest of the field.
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03-06-2006, 12:58 PM
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| According to the OSU site, Crompton won his regionals.
James was fencing really well the last couple times I saw him fence. I wouldn't count him out.
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03-06-2006, 01:07 PM
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| Didn't James Williams win a recent div 1 NAC?
If I remember that correctly, then I think he at least has the upside to win NCAAs.
I also heard teddy sherril didn't compete in regionals and thus wouldn't be going to nationals. If true this would make a top finish difficult.
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03-06-2006, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by whtouche Didn't James Williams win a recent div 1 NAC?
If I remember that correctly, then I think he at least has the upside to win NCAAs.
I also heard teddy sherril didn't compete in regionals and thus wouldn't be going to nationals. If true this would make a top finish difficult. | Teddy Sherrill did not compete at regionals. James Williams did win a Div 1 NAC, but didn't make top 8 at regionals. He certainly has the upside to win, but I certainly wouldn't bet on him finishing above Hagamen. |
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03-06-2006, 01:56 PM
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| Anybody have a link to results (or the results themselves) for the west regionals in Colorado? I'd love to find out how some clubmates did. |
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03-06-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ordway Anybody have a link to results (or the results themselves) for the west regionals in Colorado? I'd love to find out how some clubmates did. | Try checking the official athletics website of their particular school (usually is the first result on google if you search for "school name" + athletics). From there, you should find a link to their fencing team, which might include their results. Generally speaking, there's no good source for complete results of collegiate fencing competitions. |
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03-06-2006, 03:14 PM
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| WE: Garina and Konczalska in the 4.
Garina has a chance at a threepeat with her third consecutive NCAA WE title. Her teammate Konczalska has a chance at stopping her. (Konczalska beat Garina 15-13 in the Midwest Regional final) |
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03-06-2006, 05:32 PM
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| I'd give Ellis and Horanyi the top-2. Itameri-Kinter needs more seasoning. ME is a toss-up as I'm not so familiar with the names. J. Williams is too unpredictable to depend on making top-4. Marten is also not so consistent. Crompton is a great team player and fighting for the Buckeyes will definitely add to his strength. Momsetlitzde (sp?) is also a team player and fighter. Is Rogers fencing for OSU this year? Hasn't he graduated?
Cross will walk all over the WF field with Leahy close behind. I haven't seen or heard of Leahy at NACs and elsewhere for a while, so her competitive experience has dried up a bit and that could hurt her chances. Practice against your opponents is everything.
Garina is definitely a shoo-in for the top-2. I don't know who else is still in there, though. Maybe Kerscmar (sp?).
I'll put my dime in that Mariel will not win the WS. She'll make top-4, maybe top-2. Why? Why not. I'm a contraian. Sell ExxonMobil and buy Palm!
Is there a list yet of the players?
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03-06-2006, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ordway Anybody have a link to results (or the results themselves) for the west regionals in Colorado? I'd love to find out how some clubmates did. | Here are the results from NCAA Westerns: Results
The fencers that qualify for Westerns are:
MF: Gerberman, Smith, Fulton
WF: Brenden, Chun
WE: Enyart, Ambort
ME: Ranes, Lee, Stockdale
MS: Levitt, Baran
WS: Jellison, Jacobsen |
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03-06-2006, 06:58 PM
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| Not weighing in on my picks yet until I know who has at large beths, there are definitely some wild-cards...but as a side note Jaqueline and Emily will probably end up being a good bout, I wouldn't count Jaqueline out. She hasn't been fencing NACs but I seem to recall that she hasn't lost a bout all season except a 15-13 to Emily at IFAs or some such....could be interesting.
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03-06-2006, 08:15 PM
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| Don't discount Ghattas for MS! He finished 2nd last year and has really grown in skill. Other than that, I too will wait for the list to come from Indianapolis (home to all things NCAA). Although Ohio State is claiming the full 12, even though they only qualified 9 at the midwest regionals. Wonder how they already know what the rest of us have to wait to learn? ALSO, Wayne State has a new woman in sabre. I think if she hadn't fenced injured she might have finished higher than 4th at the regionals. Has Barratta ever finished higher than the bottom 8 at NCAAs? I don't see her near the top. Thank goodness it is only a couple of weeks away!!  |
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03-07-2006, 08:53 PM
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| This might help the discussion.... Quote:
The following individuals were selected to participate in the championships:
MEN’S EPEE
First Name Last Name School Region
Sam Richardson Boston College Northeast
Dwight Smith Columbia University Northeast
Julian Rose Harvard University Northeast
Benji Ungar Harvard University Northeast
Daniel Zielinski Johns Hopkins University Mid-Atlantic South
Philip Andrews New York University Northeast
Jason Pryor Ohio State University Midwest
Denis Tolkachev Ohio State University Midwest
Arthur Urman Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
James Moody Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Tommi Hurme Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
Ben Solomon Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
Jason Henderson Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
New Brunswick
Benjamin Bratton St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Adam Rodney St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Clayton Kenney Stanford University West
Martin Lee Stanford University West
Jackson Ranes U.S. Air Force Academy West
Jason Stockdale U.S. Air Force Academy West
Mike Burkhart University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
Aaron Adjemian University of Notre Dame Midwest
Karol Kostka University of Notre Dame Midwest
Marek Petraszek Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
Michael Pearce Yale University Northeast
MEN’S FOIL
First Name Last Name School Region
Will Friedman Brandeis University Northeast
Eugene Vortsman Brandeis University Northeast
Calvin Chen Columbia University Northeast
Scott Sugimoto Columbia University Northeast
Kai Itameri-Kinter Harvard University Northeast
Enoch Woodhouse Harvard University Northeast
Spencer Sugimoto Massachusetts Institute of Technology Northeast
Gabriel Sinkin New York University Northeast
Boaz Ellis Ohio State University Midwest
Andras Horanyi Ohio State University Midwest
Jeffery Chang Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Alexander Louton Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Douglas Hohensee Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
Jesse Schibilia Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
New Brunswick
Sam Wunderlich St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Richard Fulton Stanford University West
Steve Gerberman Stanford University West
Nathan Smith U.S. Air Force Academy West
Steve Piantadosi University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
Jakub Jedrkowiak University of Notre Dame Midwest
Mark Kubik University of Notre Dame Midwest
Ronald Berkowsky University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Michael Galligan University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Corey Werk Yale University Northeast
MEN’S SABRE
First Name Last Name School Region
Jeremy Simpson Brandeis University Northeast
Alexander Diacou Columbia University Northeast
James Williams Columbia University Northeast
Jaroslaw Jelinek University of Detroit Mercy Midwest
Peter Truszkowski Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
Timothy Hagaman Harvard University Northeast
David Jakus Harvard University Northeast
Igor Kopylov Massachusetts Institute of Technology Northeast
Andrew Magee New York University Northeast
Adam Crompton Ohio State University Midwest
Mike Momtselidze Ohio State University Midwest
Franz Boghicev Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Marten Zagunis Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Benjamin Igoe Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
New Brunswick
Luther Clement St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Nikita Tsukhlo St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Teddy Levitt Stanford University West
CJ Baran U.S. Air Force Academy West
Will Randolph University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
Robert Ziechmann University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
Patrick Ghattas University of Notre Dame Midwest
Matt Stearns University of Notre Dame Midwest
Matt Kolasa University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Justin Bernstein Vassar College Northeast
WOMEN’S EPEE
First Name Last Name School Region
Ruth Schneider Brown University Northeast
Elizabeth Morgan Midgley Columbia University Northeast
Rachel Rowe Columbia University Northeast
Meghan Phair Cornell University Northeast
Dorothy Hubbard Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
Anne Kercsmar Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
Maria Larsson Harvard University Northeast
Jasmine McGlade Harvard University Northeast
Jean Goto New York University Northeast
Sharon Sullivan Northwestern University Midwest
Kaela Brendler Ohio State University Midwest
Case Szarwark Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Katarzyna Trzopek Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Erin McGarry Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
Joanna Guy St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Reka Szele St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Brianna Ferrara Temple University Mid-Atlantic South
Eliza Enyart U.S. Air Force Academy West
Chelsea Ambort University of California, San Diego West
Amy Orlando University of Notre Dame Midwest
Madeleine Stephan University of Notre Dame Midwest
Holly Buechel University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Anna Garina Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
Justyna Konczalska Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
WOMEN’S FOIL
First Name Last Name School Region
Senta Breden California State University, Fullerton West
Kelsey Finkel Columbia University Northeast
Kathleen Reckling Columbia University Northeast
Marilyn Tycer Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
Emily Cross Harvard University Northeast
Chloe Stinetorf Harvard University Northeast
Kristen Wentrcek New York University Northeast
Jessica Florendo Northwestern University Midwest
Samantha Nemecek Northwestern University Midwest
Annekathrin Donath Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Tamara Najm Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Sara Jew-Lim Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
Jacqueline Leahy Princeton University Mid-Atlantic South
Erzsebet Garay St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Katia Larchanka St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Nina Gernes Temple University Mid-Atlantic South
Jenna Remmert Temple University Mid-Atlantic South
Christine Lee Tufts University Northeast
Jen Chun University of California, San Diego West
Melanie Bautista University of Notre Dame Midwest
Adrienne Nott University of Notre Dame Midwest
Abigail Emerson University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Ilana Sinkin University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Lindsay Howard Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
WOMEN’S SABRE
First Name Last Name School Region
Emma Baratta Columbia University Northeast
Emily Jacobson Columbia University Northeast
Alexandra Heiss Cornell University Northeast
Ibtihaj Muhammad Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
Allison Schafer Duke University Mid-Atlantic South
Alexa Weingarden Harvard University Northeast
Carolyn Wright Harvard University Northeast
Emily Paternak Northwestern University Midwest
Mai Van Vu Northwestern University Midwest
Siobhan Byrne Ohio State University Midwest
Eileen Grench Ohio State University Midwest
Sophia Hiss Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Caitlin Thompson Pennsylvania State University Mid-Atlantic South
Lauren Phillips Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic South
New Brunswick
Olya Ovtchinnikova St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Kasia Wieronski St. John’s University (New York) Northeast
Eva Jellison Stanford University West
Raelyn Jacobson University of California, San Diego West
Jennifer Kling University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Mid-Atlantic South
Valerie Providenza University of Notre Dame Midwest
Mariel Zagunis University of Notre Dame Midwest
Cassandra Partyka University of Pennsylvania Mid-Atlantic South
Katarzyna Kuzniak Wayne State University (Michigan) Midwest
Carly Guss Yale University Northeast
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03-07-2006, 11:02 PM
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| Congrats to BZ! Everyone at the Knights of Siena Fencing Academy would like to congratulate Bobby Ziechmann for making it the the big one as a freshman at UNC Chapel Hill. Good luck to him and the others from NC that made. Go NC!!!!
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03-08-2006, 01:39 AM
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| ME ... Marek Petraszek won conference and regionals, hes def a huge contender for mens epee, i was the only one to beat him in the last 2-3 tournies, and im pretty proud of that.
but yea, he finished ahead of tochachev and all of the Notre dame fencers, so yea, hes a top competitor for epee.. and Crompton is competeing, hes not redshirted. |
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03-08-2006, 04:35 AM
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| From that list, here are my top-4s:
ME: Solomon, Bratton, Smith, Tolkachev
MF: Horanyi, Sinkin, Ellis, Berkowsky
MS: Crompton, Momtselidze, Boghicev, Ghattas
WE: Szarwark, Trzopek, Szele, Garina
WF: Cross, Nemecek, Leahy, Donath
WS: Zagunis, Jacobson, Providenza, Baratta
Teams:
1. Harvard
2. St. John's
3. PSU
4. OSU/Notre Dame
I'm giving PSU a small lead over OSU because the PSU folks really down their koolaid and fight for their team. Also, OSU has no WF. Can't decide on NDU and OSU. NDU is weak on everything except MS and WS.
Harvard, on the other hand, has a very balanced, strong field in every event category. They're fielding a full team, which really helps. Their weakest is WS and ME and that's just slightly weak. All of them can easily produce more wins than loses.
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03-08-2006, 10:55 AM
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| Spreadsheet listing the qualifiers sorted by school, as well as a count of how many people each school has.
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03-08-2006, 11:54 AM
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| and the winner is... 1. Harvard
2. Penn State
3. St Johns
4. Notre Dame-OSU (pick 'em)
Harvard and PS qualified full teams. I give Harvard a slight edge. Without any WF, OSU & Notre Dame can't win. St Johns is light in MF.
Individuals:
MS - Hagaman
MF - Ellis
ME - Bratton
WF - Cross
WS - Zagunis
WE - Trzopek |
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03-08-2006, 12:22 PM
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| Eh, didn't count right. PSU also has 12 (as does ND). In this case, I will put PSU over St Johns. And even though ND has 12, their only strength will be in M/W Saber.
So my top-4 teams will be the same as heretics:
Hahvahd
Nittany Lions
SJU
ND/OSU, with Columbia (the other Lions) as a very definite spoiler to make top-4.
The big question is what teams will make 5-8?
My picks:
5. UPenn Quakers
6. Princeton Tigers
7. Stanfoo Pope's colors
8. Wayne State whatchamacallits
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03-08-2006, 12:23 PM
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| My predictions for MS:
People seem to think that Crompton is a sure bet for top 4, having won it twice already. But after last year's performance, I'm inclined to think that he'll miss out again this year. Top 8 for sure, probably 5th or 6th. But I don't think he's going all the way.
Momselidze on the other hand has been having a great season, and is very consistent in his 5-touch bouts. I think he'll be in the top 4.
Hagamen has also been having a great season. He finished in the top 4 last year, and won the Penn State Open (a solid victory over Momselidze) this year. I'd place him in the top 4 for sure.
Boghicev's name has been getting thrown around a lot too. He was a strong presence at NCAA's last year, but his style hasn't improved any since then, giving people tme to adapt. He'll put up a top 8 finish but I don't see him going to the finals.
Ghattas and Igoe are my calls for the other 2 spots. It depends how the DE's get matched up, but I would tentatively call:
1. Hagamen
2. Momselidze
3. Igoe
4. Ghattas
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