03-02-2006, 04:39 PM
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| I joined the site just to ask this question
I am hoping somone here can help me with this question.
What differences denote a "schlaeger" style fencing blade?
I have been bouncing around the net for 45 min before finding this site. lol
Im off to work so no hurry but if anyone can answer this question i would be very gratefull.
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03-02-2006, 06:21 PM
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| I think it is a theatrical style blade made to look like a Rapier blade only without any sharp edges. Sometimes used by historical fencing/party groups like the SCA. Other answers might provide clarification here.
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03-02-2006, 06:42 PM
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| A schlager is a German dueling weapon, favored by college students at the Univerisity in Heidenheim, around the turn of the century.
It has a long blade, roughly 1 meter, a large basket guard, and is sharp along the front edge and about a third of the back. The point is rounded, instead of sharp.
I understand that combatants could choose to use eye-guards or a groin guard.
The point of the duel was to show one's bravery. The duel lasted until one fencer was marked on the cheek.
Schlager scars were considered very fashionable.
I hear that Schlager combat has come back into vogue in Universities in Germany..
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03-02-2006, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BOliver A schlager is a German dueling weapon, favored by college students at the Univerisity in Heidenheim, around the turn of the century.
It has a long blade, roughly 1 meter, a large basket guard, and is sharp along the front edge and about a third of the back. The point is rounded, instead of sharp.
I understand that combatants could choose to use eye-guards or a groin guard.
The point of the duel was to show one's bravery. The duel lasted until one fencer was marked on the cheek.
Schlager scars were considered very fashionable.
I hear that Schlager combat has come back into vogue in Universities in Germany.. | That's the Menseur (sp?) I believe...
Bill, you need to check out the funny ref calls thread in the main forum...I'm sure you've got a few to add! (and hopefully none of them in reference to when you were my observer a few years back) | 
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03-02-2006, 08:26 PM
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| Just finished it. Funny.
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03-02-2006, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BOliver A schlager is a German dueling weapon, favored by college students at the Univerisity in Heidenheim, around the turn of the century.
It has a long blade, roughly 1 meter, a large basket guard, and is sharp along the front edge and about a third of the back. The point is rounded, instead of sharp.
I understand that combatants could choose to use eye-guards or a groin guard.
The point of the duel was to show one's bravery. The duel lasted until one fencer was marked on the cheek.
Schlager scars were considered very fashionable.
I hear that Schlager combat has come back into vogue in Universities in Germany.. | This is what I read in By the Sword. The shlaeger is the sword used in mensure duels. Scary stuff.
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03-02-2006, 10:08 PM
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| The schlager blade is also used extensively by SCA rapier fencers, although it is slowly being supplanted by wider blades with different sections which more closely mimic actual rapiers in weight, length and balance.
The typical schlager blade available in the US has no taper from the ricasso ( about the inch or so of the blade nearest the guard ) to the rounded "point", and no distal taper either. That is, they are about the same width and thickness the whole length. It's of a very flattened oval or appleseed section, with quite dull "edges"; there are also diamond-section ones with more discernible edges. They used to be available only in 34" length, but over the past few years they also started being made in 37" and 40" lengths.
So it is quite unlike the modern fencing foil, epeé or sabre blade. It's heavier, stiffer and without any sort of fullering.... | |
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03-03-2006, 11:04 AM
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| I hope this link will take you to the picture. If not then go to the "blades" section. They have a picture of some Schlager blades there. http://jamesthejust.tripod.com/images/DCP01334.jpg
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03-03-2006, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BOliver It has a long blade, roughly 1 meter, a large basket guard, and is sharp along the front edge and about a third of the back. The point is rounded, instead of sharp. | See the current avatar of f.n member Schlager7 ( http://www.fencing.net/forums/custom...vatar750_1.gif). | |
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