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Grant the touch
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Annul the touch
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Grant the touch ..yellow card to left fencer
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Annul the touch ..yellow card to left fencer
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This poll is flawed for I am the final say on the piste and my word is LAW!
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03-01-2006, 07:02 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| I dunno. There have been times when I was hoping time wouldn't run out because I knew I would be totally unable to defend my performance on the strip. 
..not really.. 
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03-01-2006, 11:12 PM
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#22 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by downunder
If the fencer's action started before the other fencer fell, then he has every right to finish it.
| Not for the halt at the end of time.
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03-01-2006, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HoldenCaulfield There is no such thing as 'with the halt.' |
Not weighing in on the argument, as its most likely been beaten to death and is porbably awaiting some post-mortem abuse, there is indeed a such thing as with the halt for all intents and purposes. Even when using boxes that stop the time when either a) the touch is scored or b) time expires I have had situations in which there is a light on the machine and 00:00 displaying on the box. As I'm not aware of any people that function faster than the box circuits (again I could be wrong, maybe the signals somehow take a really long time to propagate through the box) I think that this would count as "with the halt"
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03-01-2006, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdawg2121 Not weighing in on the argument, as its most likely been beaten to death and is porbably awaiting some post-mortem abuse, there is indeed a such thing as with the halt for all intents and purposes. Even when using boxes that stop the time when either a) the touch is scored or b) time expires I have had situations in which there is a light on the machine and 00:00 displaying on the box. As I'm not aware of any people that function faster than the box circuits (again I could be wrong, maybe the signals somehow take a really long time to propagate through the box) I think that this would count as "with the halt" | Even with the boxes that stop the time after the halt, there is a window after the first light when the box will not stop the recording of another light. Of course this time can be very short for Epee, but it is longer for Foil or Sabre.
You would be very unlucky if only your opponent's touch of a double touch in Epee was not recorded because time ran out in the 25 milliseconds allowed for an Epee double touch. Much more possible that the riposte of a parry-riposte in Foil or Sabre was locked out. Bad luck.
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03-01-2006, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdawg2121 Not weighing in on the argument, as its most likely been beaten to death and is porbably awaiting some post-mortem abuse, there is indeed a such thing as with the halt for all intents and purposes. Even when using boxes that stop the time when either a) the touch is scored or b) time expires I have had situations in which there is a light on the machine and 00:00 displaying on the box. As I'm not aware of any people that function faster than the box circuits (again I could be wrong, maybe the signals somehow take a really long time to propagate through the box) I think that this would count as "with the halt" | yeah, but there could be .99 seconds left on the box. of course, no one's going to score another touch in that time, but it's still not actually with the halt. | |
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03-01-2006, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Amadeus yeah, but there could be .99 seconds left on the box. of course, no one's going to score another touch in that time, but it's still not actually with the halt. | I was asked to help another referee at a college meet. I was told there was one second left. I started the clock on "Fence" and stopped when the light came on.
0.76 seconds had elapsed.
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03-01-2006, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fencerbill I was asked to help another referee at a college meet. I was told there was one second left. I started the clock on "Fence" and stopped when the light came on.
0.76 seconds had elapsed. | nicely done, but i don't know what the other fencer was doing...i mean, if you're up, you just have to book it on 'fence.' | |
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03-01-2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Amadeus nicely done, but i don't know what the other fencer was doing...i mean, if you're up, you just have to book it on 'fence.' | I would have been running backwards, he just stood there. Even worse, the hit was on his arm.
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03-02-2006, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fencerbill Not for the halt at the end of time. |
or for a broken blade.
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