03-21-2006, 11:31 PM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Why wouldn't it be? Pick a weapon already!
Last year they had sabre events against sabre events. Much worse. There are bound to be conflicts for you indecisive types.  | ahah i guess, its still lameee |
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03-21-2006, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stealingophelia i HATE the usfa, how is div 3 foil and u19 epee on the same day wtf | Sheesh, if you're going to fence more than one weapon you're bound to run into some conflicts.
(And anyway, putting U19 in one weapon - which I think is an event that awards National points, no? - at the same time as the developmental III (in a different weapon) is a logical choice; I doubt there are THAT many fencers who will be seriously inconvenienced by that overlap.)
As far as I can see it looks like a very reasonable schedule. The youth events are at one end, the senior and veterans at the other (mostly), and I didn't see any conflicts between the Div IA and II events, or II and III, or between II/IA and the veterans events, which I believe was a problem last year. AND.... many of the senior events that would logically be fenced by some of the same people (like IA & II, or veterans and those events) seem to be on reasonably adjacent days.
I was just looking at one-weapon schedules, but honestly I think that if you are going to fence multiple weapons you have to be willing to give more leeway than if you just fence one weapon. (And I've fenced two weapons at Nationals in the past, though I don't any more.)
This is also the earliest that I've ever seen the Nationals schedule. In past years, we didn't see it until (in many cases) AFTER Qualifiers had been fenced.
Kudos to the USFA for putting together a reasonable schedule (that includes which events are going to be in the morning!) and getting it out sooner than other years. |
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03-21-2006, 11:40 PM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| Now if they would just copy the schedule in a few variations -- epee events becomes sabre, sabre becomes foil, foil becomes epee, for example -- they could rotate through those and post one each year automatically without having to reinvent the wheel over again. |
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03-21-2006, 11:42 PM
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#44 | | Senior Member
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| I know that one _can_ fence both the I-A and the Div I team on the same day, but how many female foilists will choose to do so? I predict small events there. |
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03-21-2006, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by qatet I know that one _can_ fence both the I-A and the Div I team on the same day, but how many female foilists will choose to do so? I predict small events there. | Given that D1WFT had 9 entries last year and the new requirement that all participants on the team be C or better, there are going to be VERY few D1WFT entries at all, regardless of what it's opposite (similarly true for all other D1T events with the POSSIBLE exception of D1MET).
Given the requirement of having D1T events the day following D1 events I can't say I'm surprised that a conflict like that had to happen SOMEWHERE. At least DIAWF is an early start and D1WFT is a late start, to help allow for potentially a bit of overlap.
Note that MS has the same conflict (D1AMS and D1MST).
Wonder if the near-proximity of D1 and D1A will strengthen the IA fields (not applicable in epee (either gender, but especially men) or WS).
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03-22-2006, 12:10 AM
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#46 | | Scavenger
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| I'm very glad not to have to choose between the I-A and the Vet-50 WS, as I had to last year.
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03-22-2006, 12:11 AM
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#47 | | Senior Member
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| ok, not to sound like a complete noob, but this is my first national event (never even been to a NAC). How do I go about registering for my event? When do I need to do this by? |
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03-22-2006, 12:14 AM
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#48 | | Senior Member
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| For most of the events, there are qualifiers that are done in each division. The registration deadline will be around mid May.
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03-22-2006, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by little_old_me ok, not to sound like a complete noob, but this is my first national event (never even been to a NAC). How do I go about registering for my event? When do I need to do this by? | You have to qualify before fencing at Nationals. The qualification paths, such as your Divisional Qualifier, are explained in the Athlete's Handbook. If you qualify, you fax or mail the registration form to the USFA.
Both the Athlete's Handbook and the Nationals registration form are on the forms page of the USFA website. |
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03-22-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stealingophelia i HATE the usfa, how is div 3 foil and u19 epee on the same day wtf | Hehe, if it makes you feel any better I used to run around trying to fence all 3 weapons in 2-3 age groups and all divisions....let the number of conflicts involved with that comfort you. That and trying to fence 9 big tournaments in succession. 
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03-22-2006, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Peach I'm very glad not to have to choose between the I-A and the Vet-50 WS, as I had to last year. | It looks like Div IA Men's Epee and Div II Men's Foil will be on the same day, just like they were last year, but I'll save my whining since I haven't qualified yet.  |
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03-22-2006, 02:32 AM
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| I know several clubs which could (travel and all aside) send at least two teams each in D1MET. I presume if they do at all they'll have to send one D1 and one Senior. |
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03-22-2006, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JEC For most of the events, there are qualifiers that are done in each division. The registration deadline will be around mid May. | The deadline for Divisions reporting qualifiers is May 9th.
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03-22-2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Loads as a page of gibberish on my gimpy computer. Guess I'll have to wait until it gets to the USFA site. | Go to www.fencing.net and click on that link, the table is in HTML format there.
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03-22-2006, 08:51 AM
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#55 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Schiavona The deadline for Divisions reporting qualifiers is May 9th. | What about the deadline for reporting Sectional Qualifiers?
The PCS is holding their Div 1A qualifiers on May 13 & 14; five days later. |
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03-22-2006, 12:25 PM
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#56 | | Senior Member
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| The schedule is great if you don't have other people of other genders/weapons in your group...A daughter, a wife, a husband....Of course, I am not complaining...There is absolutely no way to avoid this...But my daughter's event and mine are a week apart!!!! |
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03-22-2006, 12:50 PM
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| It sounds like you will have your summer vacation in the Southeast. Beach time!! |
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03-22-2006, 04:17 PM
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#58 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by tbryan You have to qualify before fencing at Nationals. The qualification paths, such as your Divisional Qualifier, are explained in the Athlete's Handbook. If you qualify, you fax or mail the registration form to the USFA.
Both the Athlete's Handbook and the Nationals registration form are on the forms page of the USFA website. | Yeah, I know that much... I already qualified for Div 3 Mens Epee. I was just wondering how I get the paperwork to register. |
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03-22-2006, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by little_old_me Yeah, I know that much... I already qualified for Div 3 Mens Epee. I was just wondering how I get the paperwork to register. | Sorry. Yeah, the Nationals Entry Form will be up on the forms section. It does not appear to be there yet. |
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03-22-2006, 07:38 PM
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| Div 1 ME is the same weekend as a World Cup (Rio). I'm curious to see if anyone will go to Rio instead.
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